landedakioti
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I thinking i mitt have to bring it to the dealer to see if my glow plugs and the timer is working right. Then i was going to see if they would install a block heater.
For purposes of clarity and not having misleading or incorrect info out to TBN members: Actually no. The dealer's don't 'void' warranty claims- the only thing that can render denial of a claim for a particular part replacement/ repair under the manufacturer's warranty is what is stated in the contract's boilerplate.
Kioti states exclusions for implements such as NON -Kioti branded backhoes and brush-hogs can cause warranty claims to be denied if damage is caused by the implement. Thus one would have to look to the aftermarket manufacturer for recourse, if the implement damaged the tractor.
These issues have been discussed to death on the attachments forum.
Legally binding contracts/warranties which come with tractors, cars, etc. are exclusionary. They tell one what the manufacturer will cover and in most instances what it WONT cover during warranty duration.
Unless one installs a block heater incorrectly and it causes all the anti-freeze to leak out and the block to crack the likelihood of a dealer asking corporate to deny a claim because of a block heater is less than zero.
It's not to say some dealer's won't tell their customers that they have the power to deny claims themselves, but its not what someone says- it's what the contract states that rules.
One might have to get a lawyer involved these days in some rare circumstances, but anyone's mileage can vary when dealing with a huge corporate giant like Kioti/Daedong.
Block heater= no brainer. Install one at will and verify no leaks.
The way i read your post is that there is no way Kioti will void warranty for things you do on your tractor, excuse me if I misunderstood. The fact is if something you ADD does casue a related component fail, you MAY not get covered by factory warranty. For example, you can't add a turbo to the engine and expect Kioti to cover any damage that may occur as a result of your work.
I was strictly speaking engine/drivetrain, nothing about implements. I simply meant that if you mess up the install of some things, you may not get the response you want from a dealer OR corporate.
I'm assuming this is like auto warranty work......Kioti Corp is going to pay the dealer for warranty work, and if the dealer is suspect as to whether or not they are going to get paid, no way they are doing the work until Kioti Corp approves it.
seacap04 said:Landedakioti, I do not think your glow plug circuit is working. I have similar issues on cold start and it does not matter if it is 80F or 15F if starts rough and smokes a lot for a little bit when first started. Sometimes It may take several cycles before it starts. This I am convinced is the fuel shut off solenoid. No smoke from exhaust, no fuel going to cylinders. In a coupe fo days my shop should be clear of paying projects and I plan to bring my tractor in and go through the glow plug circuit. If you can wait I will post what I did and how I fixed it. You are still under warranty, but getting to a dealer is a hassle.
Block heater: I have never used one on my personel stuff. I really don't know why, because it really does help the engine with starting and longevity. I operate vessels in the northeast and big diesels last longer when you have oil pressure in 1 or 2 seconds rather than 10 or 15 seconds after start. Older diesels had a pressure switch that when you hit start button an aux. pump would start and when oil pressure got up to 5-10 psi start curcuit would engage. I do not see this on new EPA certified engines. I can not imagine what oil pressure has to do with air pollution. I degress, i have had boats with both hose heaters and freeze plug heaters. They both work fine and I could not recomm
end one over the other and they do make a difference.
seacap04 said:You are something else. We will try our best to make sure you succeed.
seacap04 said:Landedakioti, I went through my glowplug curcuit today. I will post pics and complete info tomorrow. Quick info: I used an infrared Temp probe to see If I could detect heat rise at 1st plug in curcuit on back end of engine. I had heat rise, so relays and timer working. Next took loader, hood, and other stuff off and looked under rubber boot where curcuit connects to glowplug buss bar. Real bad corrosion and signs of high heat, back side of rubber boot melted. Took each plug out and tested. They all heated up. I do not know how much electrical current was comsumed by bad connection, but I would think a good percentage. Of course it is going to be warm for the next couple of days, but I think I solved my problem. This was an involved repair with twisted off glowplug terminal, gumped repairs till I can get proper repair parts, and removing tractor parts for excess. Hope this helps for now