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    Silver Member LTEnterprises's Avatar
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    2003 Kioti 50C FEL with QA, 72" root grapple, woods ' box blade, kioti 72" tiller,18J mini excavator, 71 GMC dump truck, 4 200 cc dirt bikes, 500cc BMX XUV 4x4, 346 xp killer chain saw, 40x64x12 insulated epoxy coated floor garage

    Default Re: 2003 Dk50C 4A200T head bolt length

    Quote Originally Posted by GMtb42 View Post
    Most automotive specs are like this as well. No more final torque spec just * (degrees). Keeps people who use old beam type torque wrenches from messing up. JK :-)


    LOL...I learned as a machinist years ago that the beam type of torque wrenches are the MOST and consistantly accurate torque wrenches ever produced
    Todays Mighty Oak is just Yesterdays NUT that held it's ground

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    2003 Kioti 50C FEL with QA, 72" root grapple, woods ' box blade, kioti 72" tiller,18J mini excavator, 71 GMC dump truck, 4 200 cc dirt bikes, 500cc BMX XUV 4x4, 346 xp killer chain saw, 40x64x12 insulated epoxy coated floor garage

    Default Re: 2003 Dk50C 4A200T head bolt length

    Quote Originally Posted by ritcheyvs View Post
    Very interesting. Do you know the applicability of this new MLS head gasket? For example, is turbo-only? Did they start using it in production at some date? Just wondering in case you happen to know considering the research you've already done. Thanks.
    From what I have learned, This particular gasket is for both turbo and non turbo 4a200 engines. I KINDA got the impression that Kioti is going with MLS as SOP on their engines now ( can't etch that in stone, just the impression I got from telephone toneage )
    Todays Mighty Oak is just Yesterdays NUT that held it's ground

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    SOLD L2800DT-F, purchased Kioti CK20 HST

    Default Re: 2003 Dk50C 4A200T head bolt length

    Believe it or not, I still have one myself (beam type torque wrench).

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    07 Kioti DK45 SE HST/401 FEL

    Default Re: 2003 Dk50C 4A200T head bolt length

    Glad she is up and running good. You have had a rough road.
    Don
    Kioti DK45 SE HST/401 FEL, 7 ft landscape rake, 4 ft QA forks, 7' Fisher snowplow converted to QA, Satoh Bull 630D w/fel (being restored) JD 317, mower, tiller

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    Silver Member LTEnterprises's Avatar
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    2003 Kioti 50C FEL with QA, 72" root grapple, woods ' box blade, kioti 72" tiller,18J mini excavator, 71 GMC dump truck, 4 200 cc dirt bikes, 500cc BMX XUV 4x4, 346 xp killer chain saw, 40x64x12 insulated epoxy coated floor garage

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    I CAN say with certainty seacap, that this 3rd failure WILL BE the LAST on this tractor. Normal breakage I fully understand, cause I do bend and break stuff....but multiple HG ( read engine) failures are UN ACCEPTABLE to me.

    I absolutely LOVE this tractor and am amazed @ the work it is capable of, but if this kind of stuff happens 1 more time...well...i don't wanna think about it.

    I confess that I DID price a 57 hp kubota with FEL......I just cant get past the weight difference, they have gotten quite proud of their tractors also...but Kioti is going that direction too, now that they have some following....

    Hopefully this era of failures are over....1st HG 814 hrs, this failure was 1017 hrs !!??....I am confident that the CAUSE of the failures was found this time......I'm lazy, and PROUD OF IT...I only wanna do it ONCE...and not even ONCE is nice ...VBSEG
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    '10 Kioti DK 40se/hst KL-401 FEL, loaded tires, KB-2485 bhoe, Tuffline TB160 boxblade, Woods QA forks, MIE Hydraulic bhoe thumb & ripper tooth, Igland 4001 winch, & GR-20 Log Grapple. Woods BBX72" Mower. Diamondplate aluminum canopy.

    Default Re: 2003 Dk50C 4A200T head bolt length

    Nice work LTE! You deserve some trouble free tractoring. From what you have detailed about the different head gasket types I suspect you're onto something. What with your through cleaning and shaving the head smooth for a good mating surface I'm hoping for you the job outlasts your use of the Kioti.
    Don't go kubota, they're only orange, beyond that who knows! Just kidding- not a slam, they are good tractors too....
    Let us know how you're faring after some hours on her.
    2010 DK-40se/hst, Kioti KL-401 FEL, (with reversible Kioti cutting edge), 72" Ratchet Rake. Fit Rite Top-N-Tilt hydraulics & diverter valve. HLA Series 2000 7' snowplow, Aquiline MPC rear chains.

    Scag Wildcat: Kawasaki 26HP, with bagger system. Dr. brush mower, & 42" lawn deck, Dr. self propelled, 6.5HP Trimmer mower. Pro-Mow 3 gang mower, no HP.

    Bunch of STIHL chainsaws: 011x 2, MS192T, MS200T, MS180C, MS230, MS270 (Wood Boss), 038 Farmboss, '86 anniversary edition.

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    2003 Kioti 50C FEL with QA, 72" root grapple, woods ' box blade, kioti 72" tiller,18J mini excavator, 71 GMC dump truck, 4 200 cc dirt bikes, 500cc BMX XUV 4x4, 346 xp killer chain saw, 40x64x12 insulated epoxy coated floor garage

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    Quote Originally Posted by ritcheyvs View Post
    I bought a Harbor Freight scope (Digital Inspection Camera with Recorder). It seems to work well but some skill is needed to understand what you are seeing. Overall, it's a pretty useful gizmo compared to disassembling stuff.

    Nice looking unit !!! reading the description, I wonder if the fiber optic viewer is the same or similar to the snap on BK6000 ?

    for THAT kind of money....you CANT go wrong
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