Carver's notes on the BX...

[dsnyder]

I'm just curious,

The Carver equipment web site has a section about how the B???? models are some percentage better tractors than the BX series...

I can see how the non-mowing tasks would be better due to form factor and implement capacities, but it seems to me that with more horsepower and the same size deck, the BX should be *better* for mowing... especially given it is more maneuverable and lighter.

Can anyone shed light on the carver equipment comments? Is there something I'm missing?

Dave

[glennmac]

Cannibalization prevention.

That's what I think it mainly is. He works on thin margins and doesn't want the hot-selling BX to eat too much into the sales of his higher profit, bigger machines. Plus he probably can't get BX's from Kubota and is trying to induce people to buy something he does have.

The only technical point I think he could be making is that a larger machine's engine will be "stressed" less than the BX's engine for the same amount of mowing. But I dont consider it "stress" to use a tractor for its minimal intended purpose.

I guess this is my cynical day.

Glenn

[Muhammad]

Dave,

I couldn't find that reference... maybe I'm not looking in the right place. Although we could take wild guesses, the folks at Carver Equipment are the only ones to answer the question, so you should address it to them by e-mail.

[dsnyder]

This is the page I am referring to...

http://www.carverequipment.com/comparing_the_bx_sub.htm

I wasnt really looking for people to take wild guesses at what he meant but I am interested to hear if others that have used both a B series and BX agree with the observations about mowing... I am looking at a BX2200 with 60" mid mount deck primarily because mowing will be it's main function. I do want loader capability but dont have a lot of land and will most likely use it for mulch distribution and other landscaping projects. I may also put in a small garden.

I will certainly ask them about this directly when I start looking for a dealer to buy from.

Dave

[DONOTDELETE]

With all due respect to a long time dealer...

That is the goofiest subjective thing I've ever seen.

By that logic my L35 must be 10 times the tractor the BX is. Yes for pushing a big stump around, yes, but going around the trees, getting on and off 50 times? The BX is super easy to get on and off of (low). Which is good and bad, but in my "REAL WORLD" it's the best.

OK, smack around a bit...

del

[glennmac]

I've read that page more than once when I was doing all my research, and I stick with my opinion of what it is. It makes no sense because it it a marketing device, not objective technical facts.

I think the BX is unsurpassable as a 60" mowing machine. I'm trading it in because I want more other-than-mowing function.

Glenn

[JimBinMI]

dsnyder,

When I read that on the Carver site, it made perfect sense to me...but then, I own a NH TC18! NO OFFENSE, but I can't understand the hoopla over the BX. I sat on one at the county fair and it is small, smaller room for driver than my old '78 Allis Chalmers 16 hp gas garden tractor.

The BX 3 pt looks like a toy (as mine does compared with...the NH TC35/40/45 or the Kubota M series) and some of the owners have complained about 3 pt hookup concerns. I've had "0" problems with hookup on my 3 pt, my driver area is way more comfortable, I have more ground clearance, more 3 pt lift capacity, can handle larger implements, mine will handle a 60" belly mower (though I use a 60" 3 pt mower). Though the BX was not out when I bought my TC, if it had been it would have been quickly dropped as a possibility for MY uses especially when compared to the TC18 which is very close in price to the BX.

If someone is looking to buy a "compact tractor", I think they need to at least start with the NH TC18, Kubota B7500 (which also has a tigher driver area than mine) JD 4100 or comparable other brands to their liking.

Just my opinion...still <font color=blue>BLUE with JOY!</font color=blue> [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]

JimBinMI

We boys and our toys!

[stvman]

dsnyder,

I think the biggest plus to the BX is low center of gravity. If you don't have sloping terrain where rollover is a danger then I think it's advantage is diminished a great deal. For my money a 7500 is close in price and takes larger impliments , plus you have higher ground clearance for curb hopping or going in the woods..[img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Steve

[DONOTDELETE]

I have to agree that Carver is just trying to protect his profit margin, I've had the good fortune to use both a BX and a B. I have a BX1800 with a 60" mower, my neighbor has a B2710 with a 72" land pride rear mount finishing mower. When it comes to mowing normal grass the BX wins hands down, it will do it as well if not better than the B2710 and the BX will use less fuel in the process. Now if you want to talk about mowing 2' high field grass, well then the B is the winner. As for the B7500 being only a little more money, my dealer wanted about $2,500 more for a B7500 and a 60" belly mower vs. the BX1800 and a 60" belly mower.