Owenslee
Bronze Member
- Joined
- Oct 5, 2009
- Messages
- 84
- Location
- Farmington MO
- Tractor
- Kubota M5040HD 4WD, Ford 8N , White 105, Case 1200 4WD, (1) TO-20 (3) TO-30 Fergusons
Or...How to save over $2600 on the same identical tractor... from two different Kubota dealers.
As some of you recall I recently posted a thread asking for input from Kubota owners to help me rationalize the higher prices being asked by some Kubota dealers for a M5040HD compared the new 45 and 50 hp 35 series Mahindra.
Before the thread was edited and locked, I was accused of Kubota bashing, advertising for Mahindra, and it was even suggested by a well-respected Kubota dealer that I was a clandestine Mahindra employee. None of which was true.
However, several other members offered excellent input and recommendations and were genuinely helpful to my efforts.
One member even went to the Mahindra forum where he confirmed and reported back that my search for information on both Kubota and Mahindra tractors was legitimate, but to no avail. In the minds of several, I was still a Mahindra Troll.
Well, to those who questioned my motives...Today I bought a Kubota M5040HD with 1.7 hrs having a Hydro Shuttle, FEL with Skid Steer QC bucket, grill guard, one rear remote and liquid filled rear tires. The agreement included delivery to my farm and the dealer will perform the 50 hr inspection at no charge. Total price out the door was $27,200.00
The lessons I learned from this process were very informative.
1. All Kubota dealers do not charge similar prices for identical tractors for a variety of reasons. However the most important is that the dealers pay substantially different prices for these tractors depending on when the dealer purchased them. One of the dealers who had quoted a "high" price and was inflexible in negotiations I learned had purchased his tractor in July of 2009. However, the tractor I ultimately bought had been purchased in January of 2008 for substantially less money. Both were identical tractors yet the dealer cost for these two examples differed by over $1700.00 simply as the result of when they were acquired by the dealer.
2. Dealers can sell tractors from another dealers lot for prices lower than the dealer who actually has possession of the tractor. The tractor I bought came from a dealer who had quoted a $29,008.00 delivered price without any further concessions such as liquid in the tires. Yet a second Kubota dealer closer to me was able to quote the very same tractor for $27,200.00 with the added concessions included. He simply called the dealer who had the tractor in inventory who agreed to transfer the tractor to the second dealer. I was totally unaware of this practice and it opens up additional opportunities to obtain better pricing by simply contacting more dealers and see who is more aggressive in making a sale.
3. The condition or deterioration of a tractor is not always reflected in how long a tractor has been in a dealer's inventory. One M6040HD I looked at was delivered in January of 2009 and looked used. It had considerable white corrosion on many of the bolts and hardware, rust was present on the bucket, rims and rear end housing and the paint looked faded on flat horizontal surfaces. Yet it was only a 10 month old tractor with less than 6 hrs that had been sitting outside all year. By contrast, the tractor delivered in January 2008 with 1.7 hrs had been parked inside a metal building. It looked showroom new yet it was 22 months old.
4. It pays to keep looking. The best results came after I asked a dealer, who did NOT have the model I was looking for, to search all available inventory in a four state area. He looked for the specific model I wanted and then looked for inventory that was bought by a dealer in 2008 or earlier. That's how I ultimately located the tractor I bought and saved over $2600 in the process. However this tact obviously does not work for a dealer who has the model in stock as he will want to sell you his tractor over a cheaper alternative at another dealer.
5. A $2600 savings was enough to allow me to cost justify the Kubota over the 35 series 50 HP Mahindra. Many of the objective and positive comments received from several other Kubota owner's also helped me make this decision. Thanks goes out to those individuals.
6. However, not all comments received were "helpful". I am still confused by how I was treated by some on this forum when I came here asking honest questions while in the process of making a buying decision. I guess the final lesson learned is that not all owners like to have potential buyer's question their own brand of choice without becoming overly defensive. And that's unfortunate, as it discourages and alienates potential new buyers.
Kerry
As some of you recall I recently posted a thread asking for input from Kubota owners to help me rationalize the higher prices being asked by some Kubota dealers for a M5040HD compared the new 45 and 50 hp 35 series Mahindra.
Before the thread was edited and locked, I was accused of Kubota bashing, advertising for Mahindra, and it was even suggested by a well-respected Kubota dealer that I was a clandestine Mahindra employee. None of which was true.
However, several other members offered excellent input and recommendations and were genuinely helpful to my efforts.
One member even went to the Mahindra forum where he confirmed and reported back that my search for information on both Kubota and Mahindra tractors was legitimate, but to no avail. In the minds of several, I was still a Mahindra Troll.
Well, to those who questioned my motives...Today I bought a Kubota M5040HD with 1.7 hrs having a Hydro Shuttle, FEL with Skid Steer QC bucket, grill guard, one rear remote and liquid filled rear tires. The agreement included delivery to my farm and the dealer will perform the 50 hr inspection at no charge. Total price out the door was $27,200.00
The lessons I learned from this process were very informative.
1. All Kubota dealers do not charge similar prices for identical tractors for a variety of reasons. However the most important is that the dealers pay substantially different prices for these tractors depending on when the dealer purchased them. One of the dealers who had quoted a "high" price and was inflexible in negotiations I learned had purchased his tractor in July of 2009. However, the tractor I ultimately bought had been purchased in January of 2008 for substantially less money. Both were identical tractors yet the dealer cost for these two examples differed by over $1700.00 simply as the result of when they were acquired by the dealer.
2. Dealers can sell tractors from another dealers lot for prices lower than the dealer who actually has possession of the tractor. The tractor I bought came from a dealer who had quoted a $29,008.00 delivered price without any further concessions such as liquid in the tires. Yet a second Kubota dealer closer to me was able to quote the very same tractor for $27,200.00 with the added concessions included. He simply called the dealer who had the tractor in inventory who agreed to transfer the tractor to the second dealer. I was totally unaware of this practice and it opens up additional opportunities to obtain better pricing by simply contacting more dealers and see who is more aggressive in making a sale.
3. The condition or deterioration of a tractor is not always reflected in how long a tractor has been in a dealer's inventory. One M6040HD I looked at was delivered in January of 2009 and looked used. It had considerable white corrosion on many of the bolts and hardware, rust was present on the bucket, rims and rear end housing and the paint looked faded on flat horizontal surfaces. Yet it was only a 10 month old tractor with less than 6 hrs that had been sitting outside all year. By contrast, the tractor delivered in January 2008 with 1.7 hrs had been parked inside a metal building. It looked showroom new yet it was 22 months old.
4. It pays to keep looking. The best results came after I asked a dealer, who did NOT have the model I was looking for, to search all available inventory in a four state area. He looked for the specific model I wanted and then looked for inventory that was bought by a dealer in 2008 or earlier. That's how I ultimately located the tractor I bought and saved over $2600 in the process. However this tact obviously does not work for a dealer who has the model in stock as he will want to sell you his tractor over a cheaper alternative at another dealer.
5. A $2600 savings was enough to allow me to cost justify the Kubota over the 35 series 50 HP Mahindra. Many of the objective and positive comments received from several other Kubota owner's also helped me make this decision. Thanks goes out to those individuals.
6. However, not all comments received were "helpful". I am still confused by how I was treated by some on this forum when I came here asking honest questions while in the process of making a buying decision. I guess the final lesson learned is that not all owners like to have potential buyer's question their own brand of choice without becoming overly defensive. And that's unfortunate, as it discourages and alienates potential new buyers.
Kerry
