L3800 - first look

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Chilly807

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I had a chance to have a good look at a new Kubota L3800 today, sitting right next to an L3400 on the dealer's lot for comparison.

As far as I can see externally, there's very little difference other than a different dash layout, and the bodywork of course.

The L3800 had an LA463 loader mounted, so they're interchangeable. No idea why it didn't have the LA524 loader, they may be in short supply.

I did notice that both tie rods on the L3800 have an adjustment, so you can actually center the wheel as well as setting the toe-in. The L3400 only has one adjuster.

The 3ph gear looks to be identical, same castings, etc., as does the valve assembly. No telling what changes if any have been made internally, but it looks the same on the outside.

I didn't see much difference in the seat, same shape as the old one I have.

Not sure if I like the center-of-dash location for the tach, I think the steering column might interfere with clear view of it, I didn't sit on the tractor since it was raining at the time.

The grille guard is different too, uses flat bar instead of round pipe for the crosspieces, may give slightly better light past the guard at night.

Some of the control levers are different shapes, either to fall better under the operator's hands, or to accommodate the new bodywork.

Nice looking tractor, I will say that. The sloping more rounded hood gives it a New Hollandish appearance.

Do any of the new L3800 owners with an LA524 loader have the pressure specs from the manual for the new loader? I'm curious to see if Kubota has increased the pressure rating to get the extra lift capacity over the old loader.

Sean
 
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Do any of the new L3800 owners with an LA524 loader have the pressure specs from the manual for the new loader? I'm curious to see if Kubota has increased the pressure rating to get the extra lift capacity over the old loader.

I asked our dealer about the lift capacity difference between the LA463 and LA524 and was told that the LA524 was more. I'm not sure that is correct though, I found the following site useful when I was looking into the differences between the L2800 and L3200 (and loaders).

LA463 Loader (click on Specs tab)
LA524 Loader (click on Specs tab)

Here are some specs:

Rated flow
463 - 6.3 gpm
524 - 6.3 gpm

Maximum pressure
463 - 2347 psi
524 - 2347 psi

(V) Lift capacity, 500mm, max height
463 - 853 pounds
524 - 855 pounds

(X) Lift capacity, 500mm, 1500mm height
463 - 1186 pounds
524 - 1182 pounds

(Z) Breakout Force, 500mm forward
463 - 1858 pounds
524 - 1874 pounds
 
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I thought the numbers on Kubota loaders where the weight they could lift in Kilograms. EX: 723 loader = 723x2.2 lbs=1590 Lbs... I may be mistaken but thats what I was told.
 
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I thought the numbers on Kubota loaders where the weight they could lift in Kilograms. EX: 723 loader = 723x2.2 lbs=1590 Lbs... I may be mistaken but thats what I was told.

much to my personal diappointment... they are changing the system from the bucket center measurement back to the pivot pin... since most of our competition is using the larger (dishonest) number in their marketing. The 463 and 524 are bascily the same capacity, however the 524 is a much more robust looking loader.
 
 
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