Dealer quote for L 3800 HST, 4wd, 524 Loader pack, fluid in back tires, which i believe to Industrial, was not on the quote but does not matter to me if they are ag. $18250. Seemed like an OK price for just walking in telling him what I was generally looking for. Going back this week sometime and driving one, as he did not have the HST in stock at the time. Thanks Andy