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I didn't realize that JD's numbers were with filled tires. The specs say "field ready"....which I guess really could mean anything.
Must say though, that so far my spreadsheet is telling me to lean towards the TC25D...have to wait to see how all those test drives go! Kevin |
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: NW CT
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Hi Kevin,
I'm also looking at the B2410HSD - just got a price today as a matter of fact. One comment: I wouldn't really say that the 4200, TC25, and B2410 are all in the same class. In fairness, while the gross HP numbers are nearly the same, the physical size is quite a bit different. The 4100, TC21, B7500, and B2410 all have the same wheelbase (59"), and nearly identical total lengths (about 8.5'). The wheelbase and length of the 4200 and TC25 are about 6" and 1' longer, respectively. It doesn't sound like much, but if you put the two different "sub-classes" of machine side-by-side, you see a pretty big difference. I looked at a TC25 next to a TC21 and thought "Sheesh - I can't mow with THAT thing". I like the B2410 because it packs the most power into the smallest available frame size, which is important since I will use it to mow. On weights: There is a long thread somewhere in the archives about the exact meaning of the Kubota quoted weights. It will make your hair hurt but everyone should read it once. The jury may still be out, but my guess is the B2410 with Ag tires probably weighs about 1800 lb (the TC21 and 4100 are quoted at around 1550 lb). The 4200 and TC25 on the other hand are quoted at 2500+ lb. Too much information probably, but I hope some of it helped. - Rob |
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Location: Alberta
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Hi Rob,
Thanks for the thoughts. Your statement about not including the B2410 with the TC25/4200 in a straight comparison are probably very accurate. In fact, the B2410 is the only one of the 4 (including the MF1230) that I have not physically seen or sat on. Thus I really have nothing to compare....which pretty much makes the compare impossible other than attempting to check specs. Once I can see it in person and drive it, I'm sure the difference will be obvious. And really, 1000 lbs of extra weight is great for scraping snow or tilling a garden, but not so great for mowing a damp lawn!! Unfortunately, don't think I can put that in my spreadsheet [img]/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif[/img]. Kevin |
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Factory List: $14,280.
Specifications for the Kubota B2410HSD Tractor Engine Model D1105-E-D16 Type Indirect Injection Vertical, water cooled, 4 cycle diesel Number of cylinders 3 Total displacement (cu-in.) 68.5 Bore and stroke (in.) 3.07 X 3.09 Gross engine horsepower 24.0 Power take off horsepower 18 Maximum torque (ft. lbs.) 50 Capacities Fuel tank (U.S. gallons) 6.3 Engine crankcase (with filter, qts.) 3.2 Engine coolant (qts.) 4.0 Transmission (gallons) 3.3 Dimensions Overall Length (without 3 point hitch, inches) 91.7 Overall Width (at minimum tread setting, inches) 46.3 Overall Height (with ROPS, inches) 77.4 Wheel Base (inches) 59.0 Minimum ground clearance (inches) 12.8 Weight (with ROPS, lbs.) 1477 Drive Train Front tire size (standard) 7-12 Rear tire size (standard) 11.2-16 Clutch Dry type, single stage Steering Integral power steering Transmission Hydrostatic transmission with 2 ranges Control type "Rocker" pedal for forward-reverse Brakes Wet disc type Minimum turning radius with brakes (ft.) 6.9 Hydraulic System Hydraulic control type Position type control Pump capacity (gallons per minute) 4.4 Three Point Hitch Category 1 Maximum lift capacity at lift points (lbs.) 1655 Maximum lift capacity at 24" behind lift point (lbs.) 1300 Power Take Off Rear PTO type SAE 1 3/8", 6 spline with overrunning clutch Rear PTO speed 540 RPM @ 2600 engine RPM Mid PTO type USA #5, 10 spline involute Mid PTO speed 2500 RPM @ 2578 engine RPM |
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Dunn, North Carolina
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Please be very careful while "studying the spec. on paper."
They are very important but can be seriously misleading to "first time shoppers." The minor differences between one brand or another (or one model or another) may have nothing to do with the goals you have set for the tractor at YOUR HOME or RANCH. Indeed, often times a tractor with certain lesser specs. may better perform the task you have in mind. HP, lifting capacities, engine cu. in.s, etc. must be understood fully and how they'll apply to your particular situation. I have found that the "standard equipment" issues are specifically more important to the first time shoppers. The type and quality of operator seats, cushioned platforms, steering, PTO features, lighting, grille guard, joystick control valves, three point hitch components and stabilizers are ALL UP FOR GRABS when the seal is struck. The "delivered final package" with or without all the standard equipment is the main thing the shopper should be focused on. We provide this web-service that is being used by shoppers and our fellow/competeive dealer sales teams: Start here at the Kubota Tractor, main menu: http://www.carverequipment.com/tractor_menu_page.htm Then click on the model you are considering for general information and links for the details and tips. Example: Tractor Model (B2410 example) http://www.carverequipment.com/b2410_intro.htm Link - You'll find detail specifications, and weights and measurements (with and without loaders) http://www.carverequipment.com/b2410...d_measures.htm Link - You'll find detail information about the standard equipment offered on each model. http://www.carverequipment.com/extra..._equipment.htm Link - http://www.carverequipment.com/new_b2410_order.htm A complete list (with pricing guidelines) for the tractors, tires, loaders and scores of options with photos. We invite to use these pages as often as you'd like. We believe that the better informed shopper make the best "Value Decisions." We'll appreciate your advise and notes when you find typo's or do not find info you'd like to see on the webpage. Good luck and happy shopping. Steve |
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Alberta
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Thank you Steve for the web pages and information. I will be sure to check them all out. Unfortunately being from Alberta, the costs posted (in USD) are rather irrelevant to me. But the specs and "standard equipment" lists will be great.
I appreciate it. Kevin |
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