Which tooth bar - and where to buy?

   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #1  

Snatchface

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My BX24 will be arriving on Wednesday. I think I need a toothbar for excavating and driveway repair (I have 1/4 mile of driveway with a major driveway hump). I am having a surprisingly difficulty time googling information on toothbars and sellers. I have seen the Woods one at one place and they want something like $350 shipped...seems a bit high, but I can't find anyone else selling it. Any suggestions?
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #2  
Do a search on toothbars and you'll find more information than you need.

The basic thing is, does your bucket have a bolt on cutting edge or a welded one?

If welded most people here seem to have bought from Markham. Markham does not make a toothbar to fit a bolt on edge.

I have a bolt on edge and remove my toothbar in winter for snow. I bought a Woods and am very happy with it. It comes on of off in a few minutes and is very heavy duty.
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #4  
Depending on what you want to do the most useful model on the market is the Landscape Toothbar from H&H Manufacturing. Check out EZ LANDSCAPER ATTACHMENT

I've used one several times at a local Scout Camp and its amazing for removing sod, grading, and general use. I prefer it to the regular toothbar I have on my BX>
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #5  
Renob said:
Check out these guys. I have one for my BX24 ($173.00 + shipping). Great quality, fast service.
I too would recommend the Markham, compared to quality vs price, of other products I have looked at.

I recently acquired a Markham and here is my experience as a precaution to what seems to be a good product. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/1147348-post20.html

Others have said theirs fit perfectly from the manufacturer. Point is, measure carefully and precisely, all things considered. I can take pics if necessary to show where I had problems.
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #6  
Scrounger said:
Depending on what you want to do the most useful model on the market is the Landscape Toothbar from H&H Manufacturing. Check out EZ LANDSCAPER ATTACHMENT

I've used one several times at a local Scout Camp and its amazing for removing sod, grading, and general use. I prefer it to the regular toothbar I have on my BX>
Also a nice looking attachment. It appears that this may be a bit more finese than the Markham, 6 tooh bar. I could see a use for both.
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #7  
I agree both would be very nice, but if I had to choose, I would go with the landscape bar. Its nice for removing small trees and brush too.
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #8  
Scrounger said:
I agree both would be very nice, but if I had to choose, I would go with the landscape bar. Its nice for removing small trees and brush too.
Had I of realized this existed, I'd likely have swayed my purchase to it.

If I need to do any serious soil re-arrangement, I'll hire a dozer or a hoe, large in size.
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #9  
crbr said:
I too would recommend the Markham, compared to quality vs price, of other products I have looked at.

I recently acquired a Markham and here is my experience as a precaution to what seems to be a good product. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/1147348-post20.html

Others have said theirs fit perfectly from the manufacturer. Point is, measure carefully and precisely, all things considered. I can take pics if necessary to show where I had problems.

I also have a Markham, great service, great product. Measure carefully...you may know, but I use a method that I saw Norm Abrams (sp?) use for accurate inside measurements. I measure from one side and make a mark at 10", then from the other side to the mark and add of course the ten inches.
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #10  
I have the Markham toothbar and it was sent too long for my 60" bucket. The dealer cut it down to size and installed it for $75. It has worked very well for me but for sure if I had seen the EZ landscaper I would have bought it or something with more teeth closer together.

EZ LANDSCAPER ATTACHMENT
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #11  
I hate when someone asks a specific question, and people come back with a response that doesn't answer the question, but I'm going to do it anyway. :eek: (Others have provided answers to your original question, so what the heck?)

Personally, for driveway maintenance, I would consider a box blade, or a rake. If the driveway is hardpacked, the rake probably won't work though. I've seen my neighbor try it to no avail.

The reason I wouldn't rely on a bucket is that when you hit something with resistance, like hard packed dirt with stone in it, the tractor will try to "climb" the bucket, so your front wheels will come off the ground. Then, you dig even harder, and climb even harder. This all happens without touching the controls... it's as if the loader frame is flexing. You'll see what I mean pretty quickly.

A box blade with the ripper teeth down can dig into virtually anything, and you can do it while almost at idle in low range. Trying to accurately "skim cut" hard material with a bucket is a lot harder than it looks, particularly with little 'botas. Pulling/dragging is much easier and accurate, particularly over that distance.

I'd be interested in hearing if others agree with my thoughts. I've only got 100 hours of experience on mine (1 year).

Besides, a box blade is a great counter weight. I do have the Markem tooth bar, and like it, though I think it could use at least one more tooth to reduce the spacing. Personally, I think the landscape rake looks to have too many, but I may have to get one. He who dies with the most attachments...

Good luck,
Jesse
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #12  
I agree Jesse even though I do now have a box blade.

I have a rear blade I bought for snow clearing-which it works very well. I also use it for my driveway (waiting for two tandem loads of coke breeze) but from what i have read a box blade is even better for ground engagement.

I use my tooth bar for actually digging. Right now I am using it for digging a 50 foot section of ditch which I am placing well tiles in. It works very well for that sort of thing. That and it's great for picking up rocks and logs with new bucket grapple.
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #13  
Unfortunately, the EZ landscape bar is only sold through dealers, and two that I contacted (listed on their site) didn't even know what it was. I did finally get a cost from one that was right at $500 delivered! Ouch! I am currently waiting for a price from Markham for on with 4" tooth spacing, and I am sure they will be much more reasonable. Stan

BTW: Nice dog in your avitar. I've had 5 Danes, and they are the only breed for me.

Northland said:
I have the Markham toothbar and it was sent too long for my 60" bucket. The dealer cut it down to size and installed it for $75. It has worked very well for me but for sure if I had seen the EZ landscaper I would have bought it or something with more teeth closer together.

EZ LANDSCAPER ATTACHMENT
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #14  
ndnparts said:
Unfortunately, the EZ landscape bar is only sold through dealers, and two that I contacted (listed on their site) didn't even know what it was. I did finally get a cost from one that was right at $500 delivered! Ouch! I am currently waiting for a price from Markham for on with 4" tooth spacing, and I am sure they will be much more reasonable. Stan

BTW: Nice dog in your avitar. I've had 5 Danes, and they are the only breed for me.

$500 is too steep for me for a toothbar.

That's my Delmar who is almost six now and a great companion, grouse dog, protector and goofy guy. I had him flown out from north of Vancouver BC. He's 4rth generation raw food fed and vacacine free. He comes from a line that lives to twelve. As a Dane guy you are aware of all the issues they can have health wise. My eight year old black dane has dilated cardiomyopathy and is going to die soon. The meds are costing me $250 per month but she is dong well and has got through another season. I love my dogs.
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #15  
Well, Delmar is a handsome boy for sure. My last 3 have been rescue dogs, so the history is usually sketchy. I just lost Barney in September to bone cancer. I now have a small 2 year old female named Baka, who came with heartworm but she seems to be recovering very well from that and an abusive prior home. I do love the goofy nature of the males, and I'm sure the next one will be a boy again. I sure hope Delmar makes 12. I've never gotten one past 10, but I know a few that have. My first two only made it to seven though. Great animals, and great with kids & elderly. Thanks for sharing the info on Delmar, and sorry for running the thread off topic. Back to toothbars! Stan

Northland said:
$500 is too steep for me for a toothbar.

That's my Delmar who is almost six now and a great companion, grouse dog, protector and goofy guy. I had him flown out from north of Vancouver BC. He's 4rth generation raw food fed and vacacine free. He comes from a line that lives to twelve. As a Dane guy you are aware of all the issues they can have health wise. My eight year old black dane has dilated cardiomyopathy and is going to die soon. The meds are costing me $250 per month but she is dong well and has got through another season. I love my dogs.
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #16  
Northland said:
That's my Delmar who is almost six now and a great companion, grouse dog, protector and goofy guy.

Big dogs, big poops. :D :D Is that what the grapple is for??

Sorry, couldn't resist......



Anybody bend or break a tooth? I'm in the market for a 72 incher (toothbar, that is). :rolleyes:
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #17  
davitk said:
Big dogs, big poops. :D :D Is that what the grapple is for??

Sorry, couldn't resist......



Anybody bend or break a tooth? I'm in the market for a 72 incher (toothbar, that is). :rolleyes:

Another kubota brotherhood wiseguy huh:D?

actually because I feed my dogs raw food (meat and vegetables) they only poop out a small amount and wat is there is hard calcified stool. I use my hockey stick, which has a big curve, to hoist the turds into the forest.

No, never broken a tooth on my tooth bar and if I haven't done it I bet it's hard too do. Last night I reversed my to front tractor tires so i can fit v-bar chains on them. Afer fueling up I thought I'd go push some snow off my driveway and from an area I am going to my move my tent trailer to. I had the FEL in float position and was merrily driving along-BANG-I hit a rock with either a tooth or the bottom of the toothbar unde the bucket.

I've done this a few times now and have never even bent the toothbar or bucket. I take the toothbar off the bucket in winter as it makes for better back blading with it. That and I ripped into my deck and a set of stairs last winter. I'm always Mr. Finesse until I break something - I never leran it seems.
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #18  
ndnparts said:
Well, Delmar is a handsome boy for sure. My last 3 have been rescue dogs, so the history is usually sketchy. I just lost Barney in September to bone cancer. I now have a small 2 year old female named Baka, who came with heartworm but she seems to be recovering very well from that and an abusive prior home. I do love the goofy nature of the males, and I'm sure the next one will be a boy again. I sure hope Delmar makes 12. I've never gotten one past 10, but I know a few that have. My first two only made it to seven though. Great animals, and great with kids & elderly. Thanks for sharing the info on Delmar, and sorry for running the thread off topic. Back to toothbars! Stan

Hey Stan, always happy to hear from another experienced Dane lover-good for you with the rescue work. I am on all the dane internet forums but I never have a chance to help wth transport given where I live. My 8 year old black, Molly, is going downhill fast in the past few days. I am going to take her and the others out for a nice morning of grouse huntng in the snow. It may be one of her last hunts:(
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #19  
Ok, back on topic (I use chains when the poo pile is too big).

So here are the results of my search:
Berlon Industries was $277 (237 + 40 shipping est) for a 48" toothbar with 9 teeth. Took them a week to reply.

Markham was $173 for a 5 tooth bar, $26 for each added tooth and about $58for shipping. Reply came the following business day.

While Markham was not the cheapest, I still chose to order from them because they responded quickly and professionally. When I called to place the order, they said they would build and ship that day! So, if the toothbar quality is anything like their customer service, they will prove to be a good choice. I ordered mine with 9 teeth from Melisa. Hopefully, it was the right choice for me and I hope it helps someone else.
 
   / Which tooth bar - and where to buy? #20  
When we just spec'ed out our new BX24, I looked at Markham, but my dealer is now a Gearmore dealer, and they were able to match the Markham price for a 6-tooth Gearmore bar ($185). It does not require any drilling, being held on by 4 large set screws, with I kind of like.

So far, it has worked out pretty well helping dig into the hard rocky clay that passes for soil where we live.
 

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