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In the field of marketing it is amazing but, normally he who advertizes the most and best sells the most! I guess it's almost true as deere does hold a good market share in some areas and they have a lot of followers.
MessickFarmEqu said:Deere's greatest product is their brand and marketing. Thats what they do best.
We agree on this. I know there are Honda people, Honda enthusiasts, and those (maybe such as yourself) who do all of their objective research and conclude that Honda is right for them...wasn't referring to them. I was referring to: "I need a car but what's a good car? Well, I know Dick and Jane and Tom and Sue and sweet old Mrs. Robinson down at the antique bookstore all have Hondas and seem to like them, so I gotta get me a Honda". I also wouldn't DARE to say that Deere people know nothing about tractors, because it's 100% untrue/unfair...however YOU KNOW there are those that will buy Deere because everyone from their great-grandpappy to their baby cousin's husband's uncle's stepbrother's fourth cousin Otis (thrice removed) and all of Otis' neightbors all had Deeres, and d*mmit that's just how it oughtta be. They wouldn't be caught dead in a store of another color. See the difference? I don't think we've had enough generations of Kubotas yet for this sort of phenomenon. I will say though, that I wish Kubota would step up their marketing game so's we could all have some cool gear like the Deere people get. One JD showroom near me has a whole section with all the shirts/hats/belts/suspenders/toys/clocks/golf tees/gas grills/PAPER TOWELS(?!) you could ever want. This topic alone has me a little "green" with envyhazmat said:Huh??? Hondas and Toyotas are perceived to be a good car because they are good cars - at or near the top of most customer satisfaction surveys, reliablity, safety, fuel economy etc. measures. They do command a small premium (usually less than 10%) vs. a comparable domesetic vehicle.
That was more my point really... low maintenance mostly reliable.. good cars. Then again, ask sweet old Mrs. Robinson how she liked her Accord's airbag popping unexpectedly at 70 mph (assuming she lived through that ensuing rollover), or Dick about the sludge problems in his 4-Runner (since resolved I've heard), or worse yet a few months later when a conn rod decided to punch through the side of his block singing "Hello Dolly", how they're liking them now. EVERYBODY has problems. I'd also have to say that European car owners can be a bit more fussy and whine more/louder in the face of reliability issues, and that tends to bias their reliability ratings and cust. satisfaction surveys a bit.hazmat said:I would say "Hondas are cars for people that don't know anything about cars", because you don't have to know anything about cars - just gas & go.
Same here (mine's not automotive per se) but been a car enthusiast/hobbyist since about 8 yrs. old. We should probably get back to tractors now though, sorry I led us astrayhazmat said:Of course I'm biased and I do know something about cars (degree in automotive engineering)
DiezNutz said:You hit the nail on the head. It's like Hondas. Hondas are fine cars, don't get me wrong, but I've always said "Hondas are cars for people that don't know anything about cars", because (a) everybody they know has one and (b)they're perceived to be a good car. (You can also substitute Toyota for Honda in the above). Lemmings, if you will.
hazmat said:How is that shifty? He is right by the way - Deere's greatest product is their brand.