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Old 07-06-2009, 05:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Default Re: Two Thumbs up on B2320 DTN First Day

It doesn't matter how capable a tractor might be to some, if it doesn't fit your needs it is worthless; enjoy your new tractor.

As to the turning, I don't have a B, so I don't know, but on other threads owners of B's indicated tight turning would tear the ground up worse than on a BX; of course that is not an issue for you.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I can't imaginge this thing not being just as good at mowing lawns as a BX.
Between the gas pedal, the engine sound, the lower RPM, the grunt power in low gear, riding higher, clearance, dual brakes. It's night day difference.
I'll probably never know because I don't have enough lawn to justify anything more than a walk behind.
The B2410 riding higher was a turn off for me.
Made it feel more tippy than the BX23 even when setting still on level ground.
I have places on my 2.33 acres I won't take the BX 23 on let alone anything like a B series .
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The B2410 riding higher was a turn off for me.
Made it feel more tippy than the BX23 even when setting still on level ground.
I have places on my 2.33 acres I won't take the BX 23 on let alone anything like a B series .
I don't know about other tractors and I looked at some larger ones when I bought the BX24 and didn't see a B that didn't look tippier.

But the new B2320 does not feel any more tippy (with no extra ballast) and I do have a few hairy spots. Actually I have less ballast with B2320 because I no longer have a back hoe.

Be nice if they had a standard rating for all the tractors with each tire type loaded and unloaded.
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I don't know about other tractors and I looked at some larger ones when I bought the BX24 and didn't see a B that didn't look tippier.

But the new B2320 does not feel any more tippy (with no extra ballast) and I do have a few hairy spots. Actually I have less ballast with B2320 because I no longer have a back hoe.

*Be nice if they had a standard rating for all the tractors with each tire type loaded and unloaded.
Yeah it mite help.
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Old 07-07-2009, 07:41 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Nice compare and contrast of your new B2320 and former BX24. I found it very interesting and enlightening though I find my BX just about right for my needs. From your description of the B2320 DT, I can get a sense of how much more HP gets to the tires vs an HST, but again I'm pretty happy with my HST tranny.

On the 3PH control, what you're describing for the BX25 and I think the B2320 is the quarter inching function. On the BX, you do have to pull the lever in towards the seat hard while moving it up or down to hit the quarter inching stops, which were not set correctly on my old BX1850. The stops are adjustable from under the fender and I had to move the up stop so I got more upward travel in the lever to get the valve to open to the quarter inching position. Not sure a lot of BX owners even know this feature is there. I mentioned it to the delivery guy and he didn't even know what I was referring to.
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Nice compare and contrast of your new B2320 and former BX24. I found it very interesting and enlightening though I find my BX just about right for my needs. From your description of the B2320 DT, I can get a sense of how much more HP gets to the tires vs an HST, but again I'm pretty happy with my HST tranny.

On the 3PH control, what you're describing for the BX25 and I think the B2320 is the quarter inching function. On the BX, you do have to pull the lever in towards the seat hard while moving it up or down to hit the quarter inching stops, which were not set correctly on my old BX1850. The stops are adjustable from under the fender and I had to move the up stop so I got more upward travel in the lever to get the valve to open to the quarter inching position. Not sure a lot of BX owners even know this feature is there. I mentioned it to the delivery guy and he didn't even know what I was referring to.

Is that function on the BX23. I didn't notice it. But then again, I missed the FEL float position.
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As long the hp that gets to the wheels is as much or more than it takes to get the task accomplished it's irrelevant/mute how much more might may or could get there by some other method /means..
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Nice compare and contrast of your new B2320 and former BX24. I found it very interesting and enlightening though I find my BX just about right for my needs.
From your description of the B2320 DT, I can get a sense of how much more HP gets to the tires vs an HST,
but again I'm pretty happy with my HST tranny.














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Nice compare and contrast of your new B2320 and former BX24. I found it very interesting and enlightening though I find my BX just about right for my needs. From your description of the B2320 DT, I can get a sense of how much more HP gets to the tires vs an HST, but again I'm pretty happy with my HST tranny.

On the 3PH control, what you're describing for the BX25 and I think the B2320 is the quarter inching function. On the BX, you do have to pull the lever in towards the seat hard while moving it up or down to hit the quarter inching stops, which were not set correctly on my old BX1850. The stops are adjustable from under the fender and I had to move the up stop so I got more upward travel in the lever to get the valve to open to the quarter inching position. Not sure a lot of BX owners even know this feature is there. I mentioned it to the delivery guy and he didn't even know what I was referring to.
Yeah I had read all about the quarter inching valve before I bought the BX24 and read a bunch of threads on this forum complaining about it. The name is confusing because I thought it was a way of stepping it down in small increments which is something I never needed. So I never investigated further. I did adjust the B2320 the other day and it works great. I don't know if it worked as well on BX24 but I definitely would have used it if it did. I understand what you mean by holding it to the side after looking at the BX25. The B2320 is more in your face how it works and you can't miss it.
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As long the hp that gets to the wheels is as much or more than it takes to get the task accomplished it's
It's actually a completely different animal.

For example when I was trying to pull boat out in sand if I just push the HST peddal lightly with this huge load nothing happens. Then I push it to the floor and things start to move. But the peddal is to the floor. If I start to loose traction I'm dead becase they start to spin way to fast. I let up to get grip again but have no power. Torque and Speed are coupled on the HST.

On the gear drive I can leave the engine idle in 1st low gear and get HUGE amount of torgue at very LOW speed. This is what I plan to do to pull it out nice and easy. You have to be careful though. Having owned HST low speed has been programed in my head as low torque. With the gear drive you can be going real slow and not realize how much torque you have and can break, crush, flip something very gradually with out realizing it.

Even backing up to hook up and implement with a little nudge. It's always FULL torque. The only way to get partial torque is with the clutch. And the clutch bites pretty quick.

There are situations where you want control over torque. You actually have less control over torque with gear.

Take one for spin at the dealer next time. Even if you have no intention of buying. It's interesting just undertsanding the difference. And it is very different.
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Is that function on the BX23. I didn't notice it. But then again, I missed the FEL float position.
Not sure, but you should be able to look for the lever stops from under the right rear wheel well (when seated) to see if it has the quarter inching stops.
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