My Hoe
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- Kubota B3000HSDCC, BH77, 5' Belly Mower, 6' Hyd. Angle Plow
Hi all,
I am in the market for a used BX or one of the B's. I have a few questions in this regard, and I can't yet decide if I want a BX or a B. I also expect to be "skinned" for at least one of my questions (lifting people up in the bucket--I know--probably a bad idea) but I did grow up in my family's construction company, and have operated a few machines, including a Cat 977 front end loader (complete with a "DEcelerator" LOL), some backhoes, a dozer or two, a 10-wheel dump, a Maxidyne twin-screw R-Model and some hydraulic cranes, but just on "yard jobs"--I'm not licensed for crane work, for example, nor do I have my CDL.
Why lift someone up? I'm not sure, but a friend picks apples this way, (albeit with a small, tracked, front end loader) and I have a 9 1/2' tall container I need to paint/trim brush off of frequently, and a cap to wax, on top of my (tall) F-250, and I just thought it might come in handy. (Of course, I have no one I trust to operate while I ride in the bucket, so that's a problem right there--LOL).
I also understand that there would be no "riding" in the bucket while the tractor was moving--my thought was to get it in place, get in the bucket/cage, and have someone raise me up while NOT driving around! LOL
Given my budget, I would probably be looking at machines from the early 2000's vintage--excluding any of the 50-series.
Please assume the hoe would be attached, for ballast, during these shenanigans.
My Pallet Fork Questions, re: BX's and B's:
1. Is there a pallet fork kit that works well for these models? My searches have yielded mixed results.
2. Does it require modification to the bucket? (I weld, but I would hire this job out--I know a good fab shop I trust--I'll get hooks added at that time, too).
3. Can even the BX accept full-size pallet forks that would fully go under a 4'x4' pallet? (I've seen some lightweight pallet forks that looked pretty long--the light weight appeals as I don't want to cut into the BX's limited lifting capacity.)
4. Here's my thought: a 4'x4' pallet, on 4' long forks, chained (with binders) to the bucket. A cage, welded up from 1" square tube, open on the bucket/machine side, bolted securely to the hardwood pallet, and chained to the bucket hooks, forming a "man cage" similar in concept to a "man basket" used to lift workers with a crane. I'd be standing on the pallet, inside the cage, and even if the operator "dumped" me, by accident, I'd be able to cling to the cage and live to tell you all about it (knock on wood three times).
5. For Folks Who Can Do Math:
How much would a 4'x4' pallet, on forks, decrease the lifting capacity of a BX, not just by the weight of pallet/cage/man, but DUE TO THE EXTENDED LEVER-ARM FORMED BY THE 4' LONG EXTENSION OF THE PALLET ITSELF?
6. Would it be just prudent, or NECESSARY, to lower the hoe's outriggers, for additional stability, when lifting humans? (I'm sure the BX's would need this more than the B's?)
7. The B's confuse me--I don't have experience with either a BX or a B (TLB) but I've read more about the BX's. I realize my year range 2000+ means even the BX's have grown in size/weight, but roughly, how much wider, and heavier (i.e., more STABLE) is your average B TLB than a BX?
8. Can anyone recommend any suppliers for pallet fork kits for the BX's and B TLB's?
Thank you all, in advance, for taking my noob questions.
My Hoe
I am in the market for a used BX or one of the B's. I have a few questions in this regard, and I can't yet decide if I want a BX or a B. I also expect to be "skinned" for at least one of my questions (lifting people up in the bucket--I know--probably a bad idea) but I did grow up in my family's construction company, and have operated a few machines, including a Cat 977 front end loader (complete with a "DEcelerator" LOL), some backhoes, a dozer or two, a 10-wheel dump, a Maxidyne twin-screw R-Model and some hydraulic cranes, but just on "yard jobs"--I'm not licensed for crane work, for example, nor do I have my CDL.
Why lift someone up? I'm not sure, but a friend picks apples this way, (albeit with a small, tracked, front end loader) and I have a 9 1/2' tall container I need to paint/trim brush off of frequently, and a cap to wax, on top of my (tall) F-250, and I just thought it might come in handy. (Of course, I have no one I trust to operate while I ride in the bucket, so that's a problem right there--LOL).
I also understand that there would be no "riding" in the bucket while the tractor was moving--my thought was to get it in place, get in the bucket/cage, and have someone raise me up while NOT driving around! LOL
Given my budget, I would probably be looking at machines from the early 2000's vintage--excluding any of the 50-series.
Please assume the hoe would be attached, for ballast, during these shenanigans.
My Pallet Fork Questions, re: BX's and B's:
1. Is there a pallet fork kit that works well for these models? My searches have yielded mixed results.
2. Does it require modification to the bucket? (I weld, but I would hire this job out--I know a good fab shop I trust--I'll get hooks added at that time, too).
3. Can even the BX accept full-size pallet forks that would fully go under a 4'x4' pallet? (I've seen some lightweight pallet forks that looked pretty long--the light weight appeals as I don't want to cut into the BX's limited lifting capacity.)
4. Here's my thought: a 4'x4' pallet, on 4' long forks, chained (with binders) to the bucket. A cage, welded up from 1" square tube, open on the bucket/machine side, bolted securely to the hardwood pallet, and chained to the bucket hooks, forming a "man cage" similar in concept to a "man basket" used to lift workers with a crane. I'd be standing on the pallet, inside the cage, and even if the operator "dumped" me, by accident, I'd be able to cling to the cage and live to tell you all about it (knock on wood three times).
5. For Folks Who Can Do Math:
How much would a 4'x4' pallet, on forks, decrease the lifting capacity of a BX, not just by the weight of pallet/cage/man, but DUE TO THE EXTENDED LEVER-ARM FORMED BY THE 4' LONG EXTENSION OF THE PALLET ITSELF?
6. Would it be just prudent, or NECESSARY, to lower the hoe's outriggers, for additional stability, when lifting humans? (I'm sure the BX's would need this more than the B's?)
7. The B's confuse me--I don't have experience with either a BX or a B (TLB) but I've read more about the BX's. I realize my year range 2000+ means even the BX's have grown in size/weight, but roughly, how much wider, and heavier (i.e., more STABLE) is your average B TLB than a BX?
8. Can anyone recommend any suppliers for pallet fork kits for the BX's and B TLB's?
Thank you all, in advance, for taking my noob questions.
My Hoe
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