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    Default Trac Vac 560 Turbine Removal

    Sorry*?I use this with my BX2360 didn't see a better forum for posting...

    I "engulfed" a sizeable rock and bent one turbine blade. Interested in removing it to see if it is repairable. Does anyone know how to get it off the shaft (I have removed the nut), and also does anyone know how much replacement turbines run? I"ll probably call Palmor today at some point.

    Thanks.
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    Default Re: Trac Vac 560 Turbine Removal

    Quote Originally Posted by snpower View Post
    Sorry*?I use this with my BX2360 didn't see a better forum for posting...

    I "engulfed" a sizeable rock and bent one turbine blade. Interested in removing it to see if it is repairable. Does anyone know how to get it off the shaft (I have removed the nut), and also does anyone know how much replacement turbines run? I"ll probably call Palmor today at some point.

    Thanks.
    I will assume you have the impeller fully
    exposed and the housing surronding the
    impeller removed.

    Be sure to inspect it for any set screws that may
    be set in the impeller collar (the tube the paddles are welded to)
    and may be painted over first.

    The impeller is most likely siezed on the shaft
    and will require a pair of pry bars to remove it.
    I sincerely hope you have room to use the pry
    bars to push the impeller up.

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    Default Re: Trac Vac 560 Turbine Removal

    There are two Allen set screws at 90 degrees to each other on mine that lock the impeller onto the motor shaft besides the cap bolt. You might find that the Allen heads are filled with crud so pick them out before trying to insert a wrench. I've used blocks of wood and two pry bars to coax the impeller off once the screws are backed off. The wood will keep you from wrecking the crankcase.

    The blades are just soft steel and can be straightened using a vise to hold the opposite blade and a pipe or Crescent wrench to bend the other one back into position.

    I run a few bricks thru mine every so often.
    There is no "I" in team, but there is a "Me" if you want to jumble it up a bit...

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    Default Re: Trac Vac 560 Turbine Removal

    in the past you usually end up cutting it and getting a new one! done it three times on our units. Not a cheap thing.

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    Can't help with removal but I've had a steel impeller on my Wheel Horse vac bagger unit bent back and balanced by a machine shop fo $50. Get an estimate before you buy a new one.
    Chris

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    Default Re: Trac Vac 560 Turbine Removal

    Thanks for the replies. I used a gear puller to get the wheel off and now it's down the street at the shop I use for all my auto work being straightened out.
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    5' TW rake
    4' Frontier Box Blade

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    1963 McIntosh Tube Amp w/1959 Citation I Preamp
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    Default Re: Trac Vac 560 Turbine Removal

    I got the impeller back - $20.00 to straighten ALL needed areas and place new welds where needed. It's nice, in this day and time, to FIX something vs. run out and buy another. I'm not sure it's perfectly balanced... will have to check my reinstallation later this afternoon.
    2010 BX2360
    54" MMM, 5' TW rear blade
    5' TW rake
    4' Frontier Box Blade

    Male Red Fox Labrador Retriever
    1963 McIntosh Tube Amp w/1959 Citation I Preamp
    Bozak B302A Speakers

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    Default Re: Trac Vac 560 Turbine Removal

    Good deal. You made out well for only $20 bucks. I don't think mine was perfectly balanced either, but it was better than I could do with the impeller clamped in my vise.
    Chris

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    Default Re: Trac Vac 560 Turbine Removal

    snpower, I just received a gift from my neighbor: an old Trac Vac that does not run; he says he's been using it for over 30 years. The rig is pretty solid, and I think worth trying to get back into service.

    The motor may not be the original, but it's old, too -- a 5HP (206cc) Briggs and Stratton. I think it may have thrown a rod, because it has 0 compression.

    Anyway, I would like to get the engine off and either rebuild or replace it, and I'm stuck at the the impeller blade, just as you were. I bought a 2/3-way gear puller, but can't get enough 'bite' on the pawls at the pull points. What kind of puller did you use? I will have to get the impeller serviced as well, since it has a bent blade.

    I will pull this behind my Cub Cadet once it's fixed.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Trac Vac 560 Turbine Removal

    snpower, I just received a gift from my neighbor: an old Trac Vac that does not run; he says he's been using it for over 30 years. The rig is pretty solid, and I think worth trying to get back into service.

    The motor may not be the original, but it's old, too -- a 5HP (206cc) Briggs and Stratton. I think it may have thrown a rod, because it has 0 compression.

    Anyway, I would like to get the engine off and either rebuild or replace it, and I'm stuck at the the impeller blade, just as you were. I bought a 2/3-way gear puller, but can't get enough 'bite' on the pawls at the pull points. What kind of puller did you use? I will have to get the impeller serviced as well, since it has a bent blade.

    I will pull this behind my Cub Cadet once it's fixed.

    Thanks.

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