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03-09-2013, 11:49 PM #11
Re: Tier 4 MachinesL5740 LA854 loader
L3130 LA723 loader sold
B3200 LA504 loader
JD 850D Gator sold
JD F935 x 2 sold
JD 310D TLB
Gehl 602 excavator
03-10-2013, 04:44 PM #12
Re: Tier 4 Machines
The biggest problem is going to be the lack of aftermarket options for removing that emissions stuff. Vehicles have aftermarket companies spending their own money on R&D and working out the kinks. Doubt there will be many options for that on tractors, so there will be a lot of experimentation by individual owners.
I made a trade this past November because I didn't want a Tier 4 tractor. Bad enough I have it on my F250, and have no idea if I'll be able to keep that for 10 years. I used to work on my old 7.3L, but am not too excited about the thought of having to dig through all that junk on top of the motor before I can even see the valley on the new one, and am very concerned with the parts costs for the newer truck. I like my "old fashioned" 2012 pre-Tier 4 tractor.2012 Kubota B3000, block heater, filled rears, rear wheel spacers, fender extensions, LA403 w/60" bucket, BH77 w/12" bucket & mechanical thumb, Kubota pin-type QA, Kubota forks, Caroni TM1600 flail, Buhler Allied YC6010 3pt blower, Meyer 72" FEL mounted plow, Midwest LR2072 rake
2008 Kubota B3030 (Open Station), LA403, BH75, 4 - 55w halogen front & rear ROPS mounted worklights with L39 dash switches
2004 Case NH DX24E Subcompact
Kubotas from Barlow's
03-10-2013, 09:15 PM #13
Re: Tier 4 MachinesMX5100 DT, 877 Loader, R-1 tires, W.R. Long 3rd function, Wildkat 66" grapple, 48" forks, Bush Hog SQ172, box blade, WoodMaxx WM-8H wood chipper, WoodMaxx WM-8600 Backhoe
04-19-2013, 11:11 AM #14
- Join Date
- Apr 2001
- Rural mountains - Colorado
- Many in the past, Today, a Kubota M59, JD530, and 2 Yanmars - 16 & 33 hp
Re: Tier 4 Machines
I was suspicious of the Tier 4 standards myself so I read up on them and that made me feel better. Mainly I couldn't understand how our M59 could call itself any kind of Tier 4 and still not have particulate filter or really anything much in the way of emissions control hardware at all.
Reading into Tier 4 made me feel sort of odd. Call me a crank, but I've can't remember the last time I read any regulation that made me feel better.
But as I understand it, Tier 4 sets standards for particulate emission, but doesn't specify how the manufacturer has to meet those standards. It just sets limits how many particles emitted and defines how to count 'em. For an old independent engineering cuss like myself I like that kind freedom in meeting regulatory requirements. And speaking frankly..... as much as I like diesels, I do hate the traditional diesel smoke and stink.
What I like about Tier 4 is that along with less smoke there is freedom to explore new ways of doing things. That means one manufacturer can decide to invest minimal R&D dollars, and still use a traditional well-respected diesel motor that they already know inside and out. Such an older engine may not be all that efficient at burning fuel, but it has other advantages. All they have to do is to filter out the particles before they get out the smoke stack. That works for me.
Another manufacturer can spend more R&D dollars into changing the way that the fuel burns in the combustion chamber in order to burn it more completely. Those guys are trying to meet Tier 4 by producing less smoke in the first place. There are never any guarantees with any R&D, but apparently it worked for the M59 because it doesn't have a particulate filter and not much in the way of any emission control hardware. That works for me too.
rScottyA wonderful old 2-cylinder JD 530 for Cat II 3pt work, an M59 named "Handy"
A pair of US Yanmars: YM336d & YM165d - known respectively as Big & Little.
Plus some well-beaten implements - all of which work far better than they look.
04-19-2013, 11:36 AM #15
Re: Tier 4 Machines
Thanks for the lucid post.L5450, L48, L3250, L345, never enough attachments
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