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Bringing this "debate" up one more time /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif. My multitude of phone calls to dealers all over western Washington and Western Oregon produced similar results. To summarize, the feeling is among service departments is that the Super is for cold areas. One or two mentioned they use Super UDT in warranty tractors because Kubota says to. Most do not use Super in ANYTHING, ANYTIME, a lot don't even carry it. One said they were actually told by Kubota it was developed to aid cold use problems. All said they know of no problems of any kind using UDT in anything but an excavator which I guess generates more heat or has a need for the better? thinner? oil.
Based on talking to all of these dealers I went with the UDT in my L35. Now this is just based on my unscientific feeling, I wasn't even thinking of comparing this, and because of the fact that I wasn't thinking in advance of comparing this I consider my subjective feeling that hit me all of a sudden to be pretty valid.
Something no dealer mentioned...the lightning fast hydraulics on my L35 are still fast, but not lightning fast. At a fairly low rpm, 1200, the loader would empty like someone had pulled the pins and it was dropping from gravity, if you left it in dump mode too long it would BANG against it's stops. The backhoe was sometimes like a wild fire hose. Now it is (to me) tamer. Sure that is safer, but I think I would have eventually caught up to it and used the speed.
The thing I liked best was that at almost an idle the loader would jump up and down, I could feather it moving along backwards. I still can...but unless I have gone insane it really IS slower. As I mentioned above, I wasn't planning on comparing this aspect (hadn't even thought of it) so the fact that I felt the next day that things had slowed down really makes me think thing HAVE slowed down.
It stands to reason that a lighter oil with a high output pump WOULD flow faster then a heavier oil doesn't it?
I also felt that the shifting was slower, that there was more hesitation, and when it did shift there was more of a jerk to it when it engaged.
I'm wondering what the "weight" of the two oils are and how that compares to a true synthetic. If a synthetic is lighter then Super UDT it would stand to reason you'd notice a pickup in your hydraulic function after switching, or am I off base here?
I could have of course kept mum about this to save "face". No one likes to admit they made a mistake, but IMHO you should think about this aspect when your dealer says they only use UDT. I just can't believe I felt this way about the speed for no reason. About 50 degrees out. Feel free to prove me wrong (at least I'll feel better!)
Sign me...
Going a little slower,/w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif looking forward to my next oil change/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif!
del oldcarparts@mygarage.com
Based on talking to all of these dealers I went with the UDT in my L35. Now this is just based on my unscientific feeling, I wasn't even thinking of comparing this, and because of the fact that I wasn't thinking in advance of comparing this I consider my subjective feeling that hit me all of a sudden to be pretty valid.
Something no dealer mentioned...the lightning fast hydraulics on my L35 are still fast, but not lightning fast. At a fairly low rpm, 1200, the loader would empty like someone had pulled the pins and it was dropping from gravity, if you left it in dump mode too long it would BANG against it's stops. The backhoe was sometimes like a wild fire hose. Now it is (to me) tamer. Sure that is safer, but I think I would have eventually caught up to it and used the speed.
The thing I liked best was that at almost an idle the loader would jump up and down, I could feather it moving along backwards. I still can...but unless I have gone insane it really IS slower. As I mentioned above, I wasn't planning on comparing this aspect (hadn't even thought of it) so the fact that I felt the next day that things had slowed down really makes me think thing HAVE slowed down.
It stands to reason that a lighter oil with a high output pump WOULD flow faster then a heavier oil doesn't it?
I also felt that the shifting was slower, that there was more hesitation, and when it did shift there was more of a jerk to it when it engaged.
I'm wondering what the "weight" of the two oils are and how that compares to a true synthetic. If a synthetic is lighter then Super UDT it would stand to reason you'd notice a pickup in your hydraulic function after switching, or am I off base here?
I could have of course kept mum about this to save "face". No one likes to admit they made a mistake, but IMHO you should think about this aspect when your dealer says they only use UDT. I just can't believe I felt this way about the speed for no reason. About 50 degrees out. Feel free to prove me wrong (at least I'll feel better!)
Sign me...
Going a little slower,/w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif looking forward to my next oil change/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif!
del oldcarparts@mygarage.com