dannyk
Silver Member
- Joined
- Jun 14, 2001
- Messages
- 179
- Location
- Northern Minnesota
- Tractor
- Kubota and John Deere tractors 20-40HP; skid steer loader
I need some help with a 3ph hydraulic problem. I purchased my B7500 last year and it performed flawlessly. I use the tractor only for mowing with a 60" mid mount mower and, with the mmm removed, with a 48" brush hog. I keep the "implement lowering limit" adjusted so my brush hog remains level. Those of you having position control on your tractors may not be familiar with this limiter. It is a simple sliding stop on a rod beneath the right rear of the tractor seat. It works well in place of position control for me since I only have one rear implement and don’t need to change the limiter position once it is set. (It’s a pain in the rear to change it.) It prevents the rear 3 point arms from dropping too low so that the hog would scalp.
The first problem I noticed was when I started the tractor in late May after winter storage. There were all sorts of noises, banging and other undesirables, which I finally realized were related to the hydraulic lift control lever not being in the fully neutral position (It was close, but not fully centered). I had tried to put it in neutral before starting the tractor, but it would not shift fully into neutral, and I didn’t want to force it. OK, problem solved, I’m thinking. Now when I start the tractor, if the lever won’t go fully into neutral, I simply put it into neutral immediately after starting the engine.
Next thing I notice is early this August when I am removing the mmm. The pin that holds the left anti-scalping wheel on the mower (the wheel that turns 90 degrees when sliding the mower out) is bent so badly I have to drill it out. I’m a little confused about how that could have happened, but I proceed with brush hogging my nine acres. I had no problems with the hydraulics, but I did notice that once when I stopped the tractor for lunch and forgot to close the 3-point lowering speed knob, the front of the brush hog did lower past the limit until it was resting on the ground. I had no problems when I resumed mowing.
This weekend I remounted the mmm after removing the brush hog. Now I find that when I lower the mower to the ground I hear grinding and/or squealing noises that I can alleviate by working the hydraulic lever back and forth a bit. But I also notice that the three point arms are not in float. That is to say, when the mmm in on the ground, the three point arms are locked into position and will not move. I may be crazy, but I was sure that before when using the mmm that the 3 point arms could easily by lifted by hand. That is they "float" upwards even though their downward travel was limited to horizontal by the so-called implement-lowering limit.
I am obviously going to call the dealer Monday, but I sure would appreciate any advice/knowledge about the 3ph hydraulic system that may relate to my problem. For example, if the rear 3ph arms are not in float, does that mean my mmm is also not floating on the ground, and could that be the cause of the bent anti-scalping wheel pin? At this point I will not be using the tractor until I get the 3ph hydraulic system figured out and working properly. I would really appreciate hearing from anyone who can help. Thanks!
The first problem I noticed was when I started the tractor in late May after winter storage. There were all sorts of noises, banging and other undesirables, which I finally realized were related to the hydraulic lift control lever not being in the fully neutral position (It was close, but not fully centered). I had tried to put it in neutral before starting the tractor, but it would not shift fully into neutral, and I didn’t want to force it. OK, problem solved, I’m thinking. Now when I start the tractor, if the lever won’t go fully into neutral, I simply put it into neutral immediately after starting the engine.
Next thing I notice is early this August when I am removing the mmm. The pin that holds the left anti-scalping wheel on the mower (the wheel that turns 90 degrees when sliding the mower out) is bent so badly I have to drill it out. I’m a little confused about how that could have happened, but I proceed with brush hogging my nine acres. I had no problems with the hydraulics, but I did notice that once when I stopped the tractor for lunch and forgot to close the 3-point lowering speed knob, the front of the brush hog did lower past the limit until it was resting on the ground. I had no problems when I resumed mowing.
This weekend I remounted the mmm after removing the brush hog. Now I find that when I lower the mower to the ground I hear grinding and/or squealing noises that I can alleviate by working the hydraulic lever back and forth a bit. But I also notice that the three point arms are not in float. That is to say, when the mmm in on the ground, the three point arms are locked into position and will not move. I may be crazy, but I was sure that before when using the mmm that the 3 point arms could easily by lifted by hand. That is they "float" upwards even though their downward travel was limited to horizontal by the so-called implement-lowering limit.
I am obviously going to call the dealer Monday, but I sure would appreciate any advice/knowledge about the 3ph hydraulic system that may relate to my problem. For example, if the rear 3ph arms are not in float, does that mean my mmm is also not floating on the ground, and could that be the cause of the bent anti-scalping wheel pin? At this point I will not be using the tractor until I get the 3ph hydraulic system figured out and working properly. I would really appreciate hearing from anyone who can help. Thanks!