Well OK... saw a dealer today in Mich that sells both Kioti AND LS tractors. I spent almost an hour going back & forth on the R4047(H) and DK50SE(H). They are both great machines. Here are some of my objective observations between the two:
ENGINE: The LS "Mitsubishi" engine seemed WAY more smooth and refined, was more responsive to throttle adjustments than the Kioti (Daedong) engine. The LS was also much more quiet.
HST - TRAVELING: The LS seemed more smooth, better HST.
3-PT and REAR: Not much to say here, splitting hairs really. LS has the dual remotes, BUT Kioti has the rear lift-control. I also like the 3-pt linkage "adjustment" bar better on the Kioti, which is a "Crank" vs the "turn" style on the LS.
TIRES: LS has the wider R-4 tires, and what seems to be larger front tires.
LOADER: LS had a smoother and more responsive loader response, and the hydraulics seemed smoother. Visibility was better on the LS, due to the taller (and possibly narrower?) loader arms on the Kioti.
CABIN-AREA: Definitely more roomy on the Kioti. If the seat on the LS would go backward another 2 or 3 notches, it would be much better. But, it feels more cramped than the Kioti. The Tilt-Column on the Kioti has a much better design; the lever is actually (left) foot activated, just press it (easily) and it unlocks the column. Much better than the LS, which I found pretty stiff and more involved. The F/R Hydro pedals on the LS seemed too close to the operator, which again could be fixed with more backward seat movement. However, because the gas-tank is behind the seat, this probably isn't possible. Then again, putting the tank there makes the forward/down visibility better. I was not a fan of the gear/speed-shifter position on the LS. It felt like the loader control arm should be where the gear-shifter is. Looking at it, I can probably easily shorten the height of that shifter by cutting it down and relocating the knob about 8-10" lower. The Loader Control knob on the LS also feels like it's too far to the right. Looking at it, I may be able to adjust the bracket and move it closer to where the gear-shifter knob is/was. The Kioti has push-button 4x4, LS has a lever. Who cares either way. Everything else about the cabin is pretty much subjective to each person, so those are just my observations. Getting on & off the Kioti was definitely easier though, because of the more open spaced design. Seats were too close to call.
FIT-&-FINISH: I did not notice any differences in apparent quality between the two. If anything, the LS felt a little more "fresh" than the Kioti; the Kioti felt a bit more utilitarian and industrial.
OVERALL: Overall I am leaning heavily toward the LS. I think I can adjust some of the cabin issues, and the loader & engine response seemed like a real winner. The LS is also cheaper, plus it's blue :dance1:
Dealer quoted me the following:
LS R4041H: $20,400
LS R4047H: $21,750
Kioti DK40SEH: $21,700
Kioti DK50SEH: $24,600
Question: Is the jump from 41HP to 47HP worth $1350 ??? I'm thinking yes, since "hopefully" this tractor will be around for a long, long time.
Oh, and a couple comparison pics: