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    Default LS 3010 how do you like it

    Well that's my question what's the low down on the s3010? What type of oils are you using{hydro gear engine}? Has anyone crossed the filters with napa, fram etc....?

    What issues are there to look out for, if any?

    Thanks for any advice

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    Default Re: LS 3010 how do you like it

    Quote Originally Posted by 20 20 View Post
    Well that's my question what's the low down on the s3010? What type of oils are you using{hydro gear engine}? Has anyone crossed the filters with napa, fram etc....?

    What issues are there to look out for, if any?

    Thanks for any advice
    I did a review of it for TBN, BUT it seems to have mysteriously disappeared for some reason. I'll be getting with the site admin about that. In the meantime, I just so happened to have found what I wrote:

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    This is my first tractor and this review is for the first time buyer. I paid $12,900 for a LS S3010 in Dec. 2009.

    The LS S3010 is a solid little 4WD geared CUT with a 28.8 HP 4-cylinder Mitsubishi diesel engine which includes the loader and radiator guard. It is their "value compact" model and, as you would expect, it doesn't come with a lot of extras. But on the positive side, it way out-performs any CUT of similar engine size. I'm not going to list it all here when it's easily available at lstractorusa.com -- compare and you'll see for yourself. It only comes with a geared transmission and has 8 gears forward and back. The shuttle shift makes it really easy to change directions, but it isn't designed for detailed loader work in tight places. (If that's important to you then look at one of the HST models. Do the same if any of the potential operators are not real comfortable using a manual transmission.) It comes with R4 "industrial" type tires that are a good traction compromise between ag and turf tractor tires. It's a fairly hefty 3000 lbs with very little plastic anywhere, and none where it's important like the fenders and hood.

    The good stuff in no particular order:

    It has a rear axle lock heel pedal which allows you to lock up the rear axle if one of the rear tires begins to spin. That's important to me as I prefer to use 2WD unless I actually need 4WD. Locking the rear axle often gives me enough traction to do many things without changing to 4WD.

    The brakes are only on the rear and are independent with separate pedals. This allows you to lock up a rear wheel to make a really tight turn. The pedals are normally locked together to act as one.

    There is even a clutch pedal "lock down" feature to prevent the clutch from rusting/sticking to the flywheel when stored for an extended period. This is a very nice thing to have in a humid climate like the south Texas coast.

    There is no exhaust stack to get knocked off by tree limbs and such. The engine exhausts at it's front-left and I haven't noticed any exhaust fumes unless I'm in an enclosed area. I don't know how the exhaust noise compares to other tractors, but it is a little loud to me.

    The loader bucket attaches to the loader arms with the very common skid steer quick attach mounting system. It is incredibly easy for one person to change out attachments (forks, grapple, etc...) and as they are so common, skid steer attachments are less expensive.

    The 24 HP at the PTO is a lot for a 28 HP tractor.

    The narrow width of the S3010 lets you easily navigate into fairly dense wooded areas to clear underbrush and dead wood.

    The bad, again in no particular order:

    The headlights don't work well due to the loader bucket. (This may be the case for all tractors with loaders.)

    There is no suspension on the S3010, therefore a suspension seat is critical. The stock seat is NOT a suspension seat even though is has a couple of little springs. Consequently, even pretty minor ground imperfections can cause unexpected nasty jolts that hurt your back. So unless the tractor is only going to be used on a smooth surface (NOT likely), you might as well count on replacing the stock seat with an adjustable-weight suspension seat for about $80-$100.

    The S3010 uses the same gauge cluster as more expensive models, but many of the indicators are non-functional on the S3010. All the critical ones work, but the owner's manual needs to explain this in more detail to avoid confusion.

    The ROP does not fold and at 88 inches tall it barely fits under my door. It would also be nice to be able to fold it when working in the woods.

    The LS Tractor website said (when I bought it at least) the S3010 came with a rear work light. Mine did not nor did any of the others on the dealer's lot.

    The S3010 comes with no hydraulic remotes. I ordered the single rear remote kit ($210 shipped -- more than reasonable) from LS and installed it myself. My advice to others considering the S3010 would be to just have the dealer install the dual rear remote kit as part of the deal.

    The seat belt does not retract and just hangs down into the workings below the seat.

    My Modifications:

    A rear work light, canopy (attached to ROP), retracting seat belt, rear view mirror, single rear hydraulic remote, LED work lamp (on canopy facing forward), and (most importantly) a Harbor Freight category 1, 3-point quick hitch with top link adapter.

    Summary

    None of the negatives listed were anywhere near a "deal killer" for me and I'm very happy with my S3010.
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    As for filters and fluids, check out this thread:

    LS non-sticky "sticky thread"
    Last edited by LittleBlueTractor; 01-27-2012 at 12:26 PM. Reason: grammer
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    Armstrong Ag BB05-Std 5' Box Blade
    TSC CountyLine Middle Buster
    WildKat 48" Single Cyl Grapple
    Versatech 42" Pallet Forks
    A "no name" Stump Bucket that works really well

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    Default Re: LS 3010 how do you like it

    Thanks LittleBlueTractor, good write up. Where did you get your canopy? I was planing on building one. I have to build a top for the wifes rhino{UTV} and figured I'd probably do the same for the LS.

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    Default Re: LS 3010 how do you like it

    Quote Originally Posted by 20 20 View Post
    Thanks LittleBlueTractor, good write up. Where did you get your canopy? I was planing on building one. I have to build a top for the wifes rhino{UTV} and figured I'd probably do the same for the LS.
    I got it bundled into the deal when I bought the S3010 along with a box blade and rotary cutter. I think they charged me about $300 for it, but I'm not sure where he ordered it from. This is not the best picture of the canopy, but I don't have time to look for a better one right now:



    I'm sure there are some better ones I've posted on TBN if you want look around some.

    It's polished aluminum on top with a steel frame and bracket held on with big U bolts. It is insulated underneath to keep the radiant heat down. I'm happy with it. If you are interested and I'll call my dealer to find our how you can get one.
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    Ag-Meier Mohawk Brave 5' cutter
    Armstrong Ag BB05-Std 5' Box Blade
    TSC CountyLine Middle Buster
    WildKat 48" Single Cyl Grapple
    Versatech 42" Pallet Forks
    A "no name" Stump Bucket that works really well

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    Default Re: LS 3010 how do you like it

    Thanks LBT I have not done much with mine yet. I did install an inline engine heater KAT 14600, easy install. I really do like this machine and have a lot of work for it once I can get around. I'm also slowly making a set of rear chains, lots of ice this year.

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    Default Re: LS 3010 how do you like it

    finished building a set of rear chains and got them on, I'll try to get some pictures.

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    Default Re: LS 3010 how do you like it

    Quote Originally Posted by 20 20 View Post
    Thanks LittleBlueTractor, good write up. Where did you get your canopy? I was planing on building one. I have to build a top for the wifes rhino{UTV} and figured I'd probably do the same for the LS.
    You asked about my canopy earlier and can't believe I forgot about this excellent post by LS owner sublifer:

    sublifer's canopy project post

    Check it out if you are still considering a DIY solution.
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    Ag-Meier Mohawk Brave 5' cutter
    Armstrong Ag BB05-Std 5' Box Blade
    TSC CountyLine Middle Buster
    WildKat 48" Single Cyl Grapple
    Versatech 42" Pallet Forks
    A "no name" Stump Bucket that works really well

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    Default Re: LS 3010 how do you like it

    Very nice, thanks, I'm not sure when I'll get around to the canopy{??} I'd like to make it big enough so that I can put a soft cab over it during winter. Don't really care about heated cab but it would be nice to get out of the wind.

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    Default Re: LS 3010 how do you like it

    Quote Originally Posted by 20 20 View Post
    finished building a set of rear chains and got them on, I'll try to get some pictures.
    Looking forward to seeing what you did.
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    Default Re: LS 3010 how do you like it

    I have a McCormick CTV28 which is the same tractor as the S3010 with a different loader and paint color. I have 42 hours on it right now. Not nearly enough for a full review, but this is my experience so far.

    9hrs: Clutch throwout bearing begins to fail. Squeals badly

    26hrs: Clutch throwout bearing replaced under warranty.

    32hrs: Clutch throwout bearing begins to fail again.

    39hrs: Water pump/alternator belt fails. Belt rubber is very hard, cracks through in a dozen places.

    41hrs: Battery fails. Won't hold a charge.

    Other observations:

    The factory seat is awful. I removed it the second day I had it and replaced it with the torn, duct-taped, 14 year old seat I replaced on my kubota. It was a major improvement over the factory unit. I have since replaced it with a suspension assembly and a good seat.

    The 3-point control and H/L range selector are poorly placed in my opinion. I have since extended/modified both so they are more comfortable and functional.

    The good: The price was right, good power to the ground and PTO, feels like a solid machine. I like the layout of the steering wheel, shuttle lever, and transmission shifter. I had the hydraulic lift assembly off when modifying the 3-point lever and the quality of the machine work inside the rear end was very impressive. Fine surface finishes, no rough toolmarks, and the rear end ring and pinion looked better than ones I have worked with in vehicles.

    The final jury is still out, it's going to take many hundreds more hours to decide if this machine is a keeper for the long haul, or if it will get sent down the road once the warranty runs out. One thing I do know right now is if you want a nicer seat, layout, and hydraulic remotes, at this point I would definitely recommend going with a more well equipped model.

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