7520 questions

[jrlogan]

Hi all,
I've got my deal hammered out. I'm getting a 7520 with Ag tires, loaded at no charge, 4WD with loader, 511 backhoe, 6' HD brush hog, and pallet forks for right around $40,500 total. Sound like a good price this time? I'm meeting with the dealer next week to finalize.

I'm going to have a 3rd rear remote added. About how much should that cost me? Anything else I should add at this point?

I need to get a trailer to haul this thing. It looks to me like it'll weigh around 11k pounds. That right? (Tractor=7+k, loaded tires 1k, loader 1k, backhoe 1500) How long of a deck will I need to accomodate the loader/bucket and the hoe? Anybody haul anything like this with a smaller trailer? I don't want to spend for more than I need, and I'm thinking a 10k gross weight tandem axle can probably do it fine.

Thanks! Can't wait!
Jon

[bindian]

Originally Posted by jrlogan

Hi all,
I've got my deal hammered out. I'm getting a 7520 with Ag tires, loaded at no charge, 4WD with loader, 511 backhoe, 6' HD brush hog, and pallet forks for right around $40,500 total. Sound like a good price this time? I'm meeting with the dealer next week to finalize.

I'm going to have a 3rd rear remote added. About how much should that cost me? Anything else I should add at this point?

I need to get a trailer to haul this thing. It looks to me like it'll weigh around 11k pounds. That right? (Tractor=7+k, loaded tires 1k, loader 1k, backhoe 1500) How long of a deck will I need to accomodate the loader/bucket and the hoe? Anybody haul anything like this with a smaller trailer? I don't want to spend for more than I need, and I'm thinking a 10k gross weight tandem axle can probably do it fine.

Thanks! Can't wait!

The loader weighs around 2,000 lbs. My 6520 4WD, ML275 loader and 511 backhoe weighs in at 11,080 pounds. That is not with loaded tires. That is on the salvage yard's scale. The backhoe buckets add weight also. I think mine hits around 1600 pounds.
hugs, Brandi

[SPYDERLK]

Originally Posted by bindian

The loader weighs around 2,000 lbs. My 6520 4WD, ML275 loader and 511 backhoe weighs in at 11,080 pounds. That is not with loaded tires. That is on the salvage yard's scale. The backhoe buckets add weight also. I think mine hits around 1600 pounds.
hugs, Brandi

jrlogan, I concur with Brandi altho I dont have the scale, her figures make perfect sense. Iv always considered mine at about 14K# fully equiped and with 4 water loaded AGs. A rear load with water will be above 1000# at 70% fill. If you use the 11#/G filler liquids itll be more like 1600# for the rears.
The price youre quoted seems good to me. My basic TLB with canopy, grill guard, toothbar, and 2BH buckets cost $37k 2 yrs ago. Xtra remote is around $800. A good idea.
larry

[jrlogan]

Oh, and what size bucket would you guys recommend for the 511? I will be using it for digging footers/foundations, a large pond, burying utilities, and whatever else. I know 2 buckets sizes may be the better option, but an 18 would work pretty well, no?

Yikes, $800 for an extra remote. What operation would I need 3 rear remotes for? I don't want to drop $800 for something I'll never use, but I'll be happy to if there's a good reason...

Jon

[AchingBack]

I believe the third remote operates the ice chest controls. Makes sure you get the one that comes with the joystick.

[MtnViewRanch]

Originally Posted by jrlogan

Oh, and what size bucket would you guys recommend for the 511? I will be using it for digging footers/foundations, a large pond, burying utilities, and whatever else. I know 2 buckets sizes may be the better option, but an 18 would work pretty well, no?

Yikes, $800 for an extra remote. What operation would I need 3 rear remotes for? I don't want to drop $800 for something I'll never use, but I'll be happy to if there's a good reason...

Jon

Two remotes for top and tilt cylinders and the third for hydraulic scarifiers on a box blade or a hydraulic angled rear blade. If you were to get the top of the line Land Pride rear blade with all the hydraulic goodies, then you would need 4 for the blade and 2 for top and tilt if you had them also. So if you will be doing much grading, it would be real easy to need 6 rear remotes. I do not know about ag stuff that you might be pulling, but there has to be a reason that the ag only tractors have 2-8 remotes.

I bought my third remote for $600 shipped to me and it took about an hour to install it. I highly recommend the front weights if you are going to do much mowing with the loader off. Oh, and if you are going to do a lot of mowing, I recommend that you do take the loader off.

If you can swing it, get 2 buckets. You will use both for the things that you listed. I have a 580 Case backhoe and 13", 16", and 24" buckets. There are times when I wish that I had either a 30" or even a 36" bucket. Get the 18" and a bigger one also.

Good luck with your new machine and please post some pictures when it arrives.

[QRTRHRS]

Originally Posted by jrlogan

Hi all,
I've got my deal hammered out. I'm getting a 7520 with Ag tires, loaded at no charge, 4WD with loader, 511 backhoe, 6' HD brush hog, and pallet forks for right around $40,500 total. Sound like a good price this time? I'm meeting with the dealer next week to finalize.

I'm going to have a 3rd rear remote added. About how much should that cost me? Anything else I should add at this point?

I need to get a trailer to haul this thing. It looks to me like it'll weigh around 11k pounds. That right? (Tractor=7+k, loaded tires 1k, loader 1k, backhoe 1500) How long of a deck will I need to accomodate the loader/bucket and the hoe? Anybody haul anything like this with a smaller trailer? I don't want to spend for more than I need, and I'm thinking a 10k gross weight tandem axle can probably do it fine.

Thanks! Can't wait!
Jon

You need to think a bit more about the trailer. A 10k gross trailer should weigh in at what ~3000 lbs? Whatever, at 3k empty weight, you only have 7k left.

I think 4,000 pounds over is pushing it too much.

My other question would be about the 6 foot brush hog. The 7520 will easily handle much more than that. I bought a ten footer for mine though I have not yet had it out.

Thing is, if you have a lot of acerage to mow, that 6 footer may waste too much of your time. You end up with about a five foot swath due to trying to keep your overlaps right so you don't miss spots.

Great tractor though, I really like mine so far.

[bindian]

Originally Posted by jrlogan

Oh, and what size bucket would you guys recommend for the 511? I will be using it for digging footers/foundations, a large pond, burying utilities, and whatever else. I know 2 buckets sizes may be the better option, but an 18 would work pretty well, no?

Yikes, $800 for an extra remote. What operation would I need 3 rear remotes for? I don't want to drop $800 for something I'll never use, but I'll be happy to if there's a good reason...

Jon

Jon,
I have a 12 and 24 inch bucket. I kick myself now for not getting a 36 inch ditching (no teeth) bucket. I used the 12 inch bucket a little, but since I installed the thumb, I will only use the 24 inch bucket until I need to run sewer ditches. The thumb meshes with the teeth on my 24 inch bucket, but not my 12 inch bucket.
Remember when you think about trailer weights, add the weight of the trailer to the tractor. My 20 foot gooseneck trailer weighs 2600 pounds on the axles while hitched to my truck. So the big RED Beast and the trailer weigh in at 13,700 pounds. 300 pounds less than gross of 14,000 pounds.
hugs, Brandi

[BobG_in_VA]

In the "for what it's worth" column, get a 12 and a 24 in buckets for the 511. I use the 12 pretty much for trenching, etc. Its also MUCH better for digging up stumps, etc than a 24. Yeah, filled rears will be about 1400 lbs or so. FEL will approach 1800lbs. Get a 78 or 84 inch REL bucket. A 6 foot bush hog will not cover your rear wheels....a 7ft will...spend the $ and get a good one with twin tail wheels (more even cut). If you look into box blades, also get a 7ft HD unit as your tractor will turn a normal use one into a pretzel if you hit something that doesn't give....Figure that the tractor/FEL/BH/loaded tires will weight 13000 lbs. Give yourself some leeway on the trailer....Just my $.02. BobG in VA

[QRTRHRS]

Originally Posted by bindian

Jon,
I have a 12 and 24 inch bucket. I kick myself now for not getting a 36 inch ditching (no teeth) bucket. I used the 12 inch bucket a little, but since I installed the thumb, I will only use the 24 inch bucket until I need to run sewer ditches. The thumb meshes with the teeth on my 24 inch bucket, but not my 12 inch bucket.
Remember when you think about trailer weights, add the weight of the trailer to the tractor. My 20 foot gooseneck trailer weighs 2600 pounds on the axles while hitched to my truck. So the big RED Beast and the trailer weigh in at 13,700 pounds. 300 pounds less than gross of 14,000 pounds.
hugs, Brandi

Hi Brandi. I don't want to get off of the main topic here as the trailer issue has been beaten to death but I think I will add this as the trailer is important to Jon's plans.

Depending on your state and how you are registered, thinking that the vehicle pulling the trailer carrying some of the weight may be trouble.

To cut to the quick here, DOT can ask you to disconnect your trailer and weigh the trailer by itself which could be trouble.

Back to the bucket discussion. You want to watch the bucket width if the ground that you are digging has a lot of stones in it, especially hardpan. Too narrow and the stones don't have enough room to dislodge slowing down your digging.

Two buckets are better, three perhaps best. Easy for us to help spend Jon's money.