rockshaft
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I suppose if there is a pin with no bushing, sort of obviates the need for any zerk anyway.
How so?
Pins are fixed and do not need grease between it and the housing bushing. The pivot area does and this is the cylinder rod end and the loader arm bushing. The pin bushing gives a larger surface area to absorb the forces incurred when using the bucket/loader. Not having a bushing there invites premature wear. Mahindra may have seen it unnecessary because they have a 3 point pin mount and concentrate that force on one side of the loader bracket. Probably a cost cutting measure, how I am not sure, seems to be a more costly pin to make.I'm specifically referring to the application where a pin is supported only by a thin (3/16" for example) piece of material. Sure grease will help here too, but with a bushing, you have a much more effective surface area to hold grease. w/o a bushing, grease won't have much chance of staying put.
I suppose if there is a pin with no bushing, sort of obviates the need for any zerk anyway.
You get one point for using a cool word, "obviates". But the pin does not rotate in the bucket, so it only needs to be able to stay in place, hence no need for replaceable bushings or grease between the pin and the bucket. The cylinder rod end rotates around the fixed pin and that is where we need grease.
On the ML205 for the Max 28, the pin is drilled, then cross drilled, so there is a zerk in the end of the pin making it super easy to grease. On the ML202, the rod ends are drilled, which is more traditional. I prefer the ML205 sort of pin as it allows really quick greasing without raising or lowering the bucket trying to get a straight shot at a zerk as you have to do on most loaders.
I have been leaning towards the Mahindra but only because of price. Cash price OTD for a Kubota B2620 with FEL and 50" land pride tiller is $2724.00 Thanks
The Max 25 has 15 inch rear tires for turf and industrial, you posted the ag tire size. The 9.5 and 8.3 is the tire width.
But I do agree that the Max 25 specs closer to the B series Kubota.
The way everyone talks, I figured there would be more of a price spread than that
Seems like $2724 is a pretty big spread when the quality of the items are very arguably similar. In a "blind taste test" I think many people might chose the Mahindra over the Kubota, so you really can't expect it to be much less. Mitsubishi and Kubota both have to deal with a fairly expensive labor force and a very poor dollar to yen exchange.
You can argue a more mature and plentiful dealer base for Kubota and that has value. You can argue a history of good resale and market pentration by Kubota, and that has value as well. But if you go to just the tractors, and assuming you have a decent Mahindra dealer in your area, prices should be very similar. And our dealer base is growing nicely and many of our newer dealers are experienced dealers that sell a major brand as well as Mahindra. So we are growing up in that way as well.
But as I scold you a little for looking through orange colored glasses, I'll concede I am biased as well! :confused2:
Seems like $2724 is a pretty big spread when the quality of the items are very arguably similar. In a "blind taste test" I think many people might chose the Mahindra over the Kubota, so you really can't expect it to be much less. Mitsubishi and Kubota both have to deal with a fairly expensive labor force and a very poor dollar to yen exchange.
You can argue a more mature and plentiful dealer base for Kubota and that has value. You can argue a history of good resale and market pentration by Kubota, and that has value as well. But if you go to just the tractors, and assuming you have a decent Mahindra dealer in your area, prices should be very similar. And our dealer base is growing nicely and many of our newer dealers are experienced dealers that sell a major brand as well as Mahindra. So we are growing up in that way as well.
But as I scold you a little for looking through orange colored glasses, I'll concede I am biased as well! :confused2: