4110 Mahindra popping noise in front end

[BillBeyer]

My 4110 Mahindra has developed a popping noise in the front end when in 4WD. quits when I take it out of 4WD. From reading other posts I may have a problem from carrying heavy loads on FEL (round hay bales), Any ideas on what may be wrong and estimated repair costs? Bill Beyer, Memphis Tn.

 

[LAWALLSTRACTOR]

My 4110 Mahindra has developed a popping noise in the front end when in 4WD. quits when I take it out of 4WD. From reading other posts I may have a problem from carrying heavy loads on FEL (round hay bales), Any ideas on what may be wrong and estimated repair costs? Bill Beyer, Memphis Tn.

Check to make sure the bolts holding the front axil to the tractor are not loose or missing.

 

[nhammond54]

In my case it means that the front diff. ring gear and pinion is striped out. This makes the 2nd time in a year.
And that will cost you about 1,000 to 1,500 in parts!

 

[Sergei]

My 4110 Mahindra has developed a popping noise in the front end when in 4WD. quits when I take it out of 4WD. From reading other posts I may have a problem from carrying heavy loads on FEL (round hay bales), Any ideas on what may be wrong and estimated repair costs? Bill Beyer, Memphis Tn.

Since you didn't mention how heavy the bales weight and maybe someone else with a 4110 can answer just how much weight the tractor FEL can lift and move safely. I've seen large bale weight anywhere from 1500 to 2000 pounds and those were dry and no ideal what a wet one would weight but I bet a lot more than that tractor can handle and being in 4WD I could see how the front end could be damaged. Sound like you would be better off with a rear spear to move bales.

 

[BillBeyer]

Checked the bolts on front axle, all were tight. The bales weigh approx. 1200 lbs. Rear tire size 17.5L-24, front tire 12-16.5 NHS. vin 4110 V12 0437. Noise is internal popping noise when in FWD. Guess one or two gear teeth have broken. Will check with dealer tomorrow on ring and pinion. Thanks for the quick replies to my question. Have really been happy with this tractor. Bought it at a yard sale with 5 pieces of equipment. I do have a 3 point spear on it also, but have been using the FEL spear to load hay on trailer and truck, also when delivering hay have to drop it over a fence and place it in rings. Will have to find a different method. Do not want to continue overloading a good machine till something else breaks.
Thanks again,
Bill Beyer

4110 Mahindra
TC40 New Holland
TC29 New Holland
International Farmall 806 LP

 

[Sergei]

Wondering if you've jacked up the front end to check to see where the problem might be because maybe you broke a axle shaft and not the gears.

 

[nhammond54]

Take your center drain plug out and you will find your answer! Metal pieces will come floating out. I'm trying to get dealers on here to give me a parts quote on the parts that I need if you want to try to do a power buy, you know a 2 fer discount or something.

 

[skipmarcy]

Wondering if you've jacked up the front end to check to see where the problem might be because maybe you broke a axle shaft and not the gears.

Possible but not likely. I've broken approx. 8 or 10 front axles in mine over the years and it doesn't make any noise whatsoever after it snaps, in fact it's about impossible to tell which side broke until you take a side down to actually inspect it. I can change a front axle in mine in less than 15 minutes. A countershaft in an outdrive takes longer as you have to disassemble more but still can be done in less than an hour once you know the procedure. I swear I'm reasonably sure changing the rear tires to the 16.9s are what stopped my axles from breaking, if they make it thru this year without breaking one I'll be pretty well convinced of it. I think the tires would have caused my differential demise as well either directly or indirectly from snapping all those axles.

 

[Sergei]

It sure sounds like for whatever reason you guys in Tennessee area are having issue with the gears. Years ago I drag raced a 68 Camaro with a 427 and 5:13 gears and never broke a set of gears with an engine of 600+ hp so it sounds more of a manufacturing issue.
Have to wonder if they are using cheap Chinese steel for the gears. Wonder if someone from Mahindra that reads this forum can answer this question. Who makes the gears? They probably have a stock pile of gears so it's possible that they all have the same issue.
Has anyone else read about any other series breaking gears, Ive not.
Maybe as a solution to this issue might be to switch to a Synthetic severe gear lube from Amsoil since it could help protect the gears and bearings from scoring and wear which could lead to maybe even finally breaking. It's not cheap but neither is replacing a set of gears, myself I'd try anything to prevent broken gears.

Also I have no stock in the Amsoil, I just like there products.

 

[nhammond54]

Cheap gears is right! I can't get any info out of Mahindra. No updated parts, the same old junk, just keep replacing parts at 1,200 a pop. I don't think that gear oil will help junk metal!