3pt not lifting to full capactity

[Tim_in_IA]

Just got an email from the dealer that they were ordering a part to fix it. I am assuming it is the relief valve but they didn't say. That's what the mechanic said he was going to test a couple hours ago.

Yup, just got another email... it was the relief valve.

[Bob_Skurka]

Looks like it will be an easy fix.

Now will it be easy to give up the loaner?

[JerryG]

Tim,
If you have a picture of your hay spear could you post it? I would like to see how it is made. Part of the description makes sense and some of it doesn't.

[Tim_in_IA]

Sure thing I will post a picture this weekend.

I was on the Mahindra site and it looks like it has had a facelift. Found the link to this movie. The bales look just like mine and exactly what I want to do! Can't wait to make it happen, but like my grandpa said, I guess I will (wait that is ).

Here is the movie if anyone wants to watch

http://www.mahindrausa.com/images/li...es-320x240.flv

[hudr]

I also would like to see a pic of this hay spear. One thing I found out early on, hydraulics are rated at different points, and a little leverage on either side of that point can make a BIG difference in how "stout" they are. But you are right, that 6500 should have no problem w/ that size bale. We put up 5x6 at about 1400# and my 5005 has to grunt a bit, but it will do one on the 3pt spear and one on the FEL.

[Tim_in_IA]

As promised here are the pictures of the bale spear....

[JerryG]

Tim,
Wow, never seen one made like that. After seeing the spear, I think that it is the problem. You are in essence lengthening your lift arms with that type of spear. By doing that you aren't using any of the mechanical advantage of your three point hitch. Cut off the butt section and weld up an "A" frame. It would be a lot less expensive than buying a new one all together.

[Tim_in_IA]

Jerry,

Yeah I think I am sold on getting a different one. This is actually my dads and I don't want to modify. I've seen them around for a few hundred bucks, and I am sure I would have more in it to have the machine shop refab. Plus it would be nice to have a higher spear to keep the bale from wandering side to side. The low pickup with these isn't ideal either. I am still trying to grasp why connecting the toplink changes the lifting power so if you have any links or info that describes the relationship I would love to look at it.

These were my grandpas spears before they were my dads and were actually fitted with fast hitch adapters when I saw them. They screamed three point though with the ball connectors. They were probably intended for a much smaller bale. I'll look around to see what I can find for a new spear. My tractor dealer recommended a good local welder that makes his own stuff so that might be more reasonable. Might get one for the front while I am at it.

[JerryG]

I saw a place on the net somewhere that showed diagrams with explanations, but don't remember which site it was. If you want to do a search, I think that it was an old Ferguson site.

[hudr]

That thing looks like a leverage nightmare. A simple 3pt spear should be pretty inexpensive. One for the FEL would definitely be handy. Especially if you plan to load a trailer w/ round bales.