massey price sounds about right to me.It compares favorably to tc30 on paper,but from what I saw has tons more operator room.gateway quoted me 16k on tc30 w/r4's filled and I didn't like thier high pressure sales, lack of respect,and got the feeling they only wanted in my pocket.that was my exp. there.Hugh is ok,btw,you can get r4's on L3000dt.I'm not brand particular as they are all well built w/little problems.But I came back to Perry because he was the only local dealer that offered me a fair price,respect,interest in my use,and good so.md. atmosphere that we don't see much of anymore.I called a couple places just to price check and Perry was lowest.On my second trip there,Perry and I were talking and realized we were aquainted and didn't recognize each other because it had been about 5-6 years since we'd talked.He's a good guy(Guy)and I'm going to use him.We havn't nailed down the deal because I'm waiting on my refinance settlement(can't stand the wait).If you watch when you're driving the backroads you'll see alot of massey's around here.Just my opinion;when I'm spending $14k-$20k a few hundred bucks isn't much.Service,fair treatment,respect before and after sale are worth more to me.