New member with a 135

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LeviR

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Winder,GA
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Massey 135 w/ Perkins gas
Hey guys, I just joined the forum, but have been visiting for awhile.

My name is Levi, I'm 21 years old, and have a love for anything old, rusty, and mechanical in nature. With that being said, I took on the project of getting my father's 1970 Massey 135 Perkins Gas tractor running again. The tractor has been sitting since 2001. We brought it with us when we moved from our farm, but had no real use for it, so dad parked it. It sat there, uncovered, in the woods, for 12 years, until I couldn't watch it rust any more. I pulled it into the garage, and got to work on her. I cleaned her up, cleaned/reset the points, rebuilt the carburetor, cleaned the gas tank out, replaced the sediment bowl, changed the water pump, changed the air filter, and then changed the oil after I squirted WD-40 into the cylinders. I put some gasoline in the tank, and hit the key. For the first time in 12 years, I heard the tractor run! I have many childhood memories with this old tractor, so this was very sentimental!

Although she ran, the tractor had some issues:

1. The key did NOT cut power to the ignition coil. You couldn't shut off the tractor with the key. To troubleshoot this, I checked the key switch to make sure it wasn't shorted out, and it tested out fine (multimeter with continuity function). I pulled the 3 wire connector from the back of the key switch, and checked the coil wire for power. I found that the coil wire has power at all times. I traced this wire, and found that it connects to the voltage regulator, with a lead that goes to the coil, and one that goes to the battery cable at the starter solenoid. I also tested for power with the voltage regulator unplugged, but because of the lead that goes to the solenoid, the coil wire is always hot. I found that I had to disconnect the wire from the starter solenoid + post. I then used the R lug as a convenient connector for the anti-deiseling solenoid...(see next point)

2. The Perkins gas models equipped with the Zenith carburetor have a special anti-deiseling solenoid that cuts fuel supply to the main jet when the key is switched off. On this tractor, the solenoid and wire lead is intact, but it was not hooked to anything. I knew the solenoid needed a switched 12v power source to work, but I saw no evidence as to where it was supposed to be connected. My dad used to have an alligator clip that he would connect to the alternator battery lug to engage the solenoid, and disconnect when he wanted to shut the tractor off. It then dawned on me as to why the factory had an extra hot wire in that area to begin with: It was for the anti-dieseling solenoid! Problem solved!

Lastly, I am planning on buying the AGCO/MF service manual, owner's manual, and parts manuals. I have been told (and have read in a post on here) that they are the most complete, and in some people's opinion, impossible to live without. Do they cover the Perkins Gas model tractor in good detail? Does it have the Perkins Gas specific wiring diagram? I recently bought a workshop manual CD off ebay, and was extremely disappointed. It made no mention of the Perkins Gas model at all.

I know this post was long winded, but I wanted to share my experience with the venerable Massey 135! By the way, I will post pics when I get back home.
 
   / New member with a 135 #2  
Hello Levi. Welcome to TBN. There is info you can access for free before you get your manuals. For the 135 there's tons of info on it.

Goto: www.agcopartsbooks.com

There you can browse using the GUEST option. If you have Microsoft Silverlight software already installed you can view the downloadable PDF files which can include parts list with part numbers. Exploded diagram to match. I have a 1965 135 continital Z145 engine. I 'm refurbishing it and hop to have it done in about a week.

Take care -robert
 
   / New member with a 135 #3  
I am planning on buying the AGCO/MF service manual, owner's manual, and parts manuals. I have been told (and have read in a post on here) that they are the most complete, and in some people's opinion, impossible to live without. Do they cover the Perkins Gas model tractor in good detail? Does it have the Perkins Gas specific wiring diagram? I recently bought a workshop manual CD off ebay, and was extremely disappointed. It made no mention of the Perkins Gas model at all.

The AGCO manuals (I have all 3) cover the Massey 135 tractor with the Perkins 3 cylinder gasoline engine and include plenty of detail, including the wiring diagrams you seek. The OEM MF owners manual, service manual, and parts manual can be purchased from http://www.agcopubs.com

Here are the part numbers for the manuals you want.

1448077M6 - Operators Manual (Perkins gas & diesel only)
1448813M1 - Service Manual
651199M97 - Parts Manual
 
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Hello Levi. Welcome to TBN. There is info you can access for free before you get your manuals. For the 135 there's tons of info on it.

Goto: www.agcopartsbooks.com

There you can browse using the GUEST option. If you have Microsoft Silverlight software already installed you can view the downloadable PDF files which can include parts list with part numbers. Exploded diagram to match. I have a 1965 135 continital Z145 engine. I 'm refurbishing it and hop to have it done in about a week.

Take care -robert

Hey Robert, thanks a ton for the link! That is really neat that agco makes that availible! That is an invaluable tool! Without looking at the threadboard, do you have a resto thread going for your tractor??
 
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The AGCO manuals (I have all 3) cover the Massey 135 tractor with the Perkins 3 cylinder gasoline engine and include plenty of detail, including the wiring diagrams you seek. The OEM MF owners manual, service manual, and parts manual can be purchased from http://www.agcopubs.com

Here are the part numbers for the manuals you want.

1448077M6 - Operators Manual (Perkins gas & diesel only)
1448813M1 - Service Manual
651199M97 - Parts Manual


Hey MasseyVW,
I have been following your resto thread! You have done an amazing job, and I am glad that you have posted pics to document it! As far as the books go, I appreciate you filling me in on them. I am going to pick them up. I also plan to still get the parts manual, just in case agco ever took it offline, or it became unavailable somehow.
 
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That's how it sat for 12 years.

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Coming out of the woods after a 12 year nap.

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Cleaned up and washed off! First bath in OVER 20 years(Dad never cleaned it:laughing:)
 
   / New member with a 135 #8  
Dang Levi,

She shined up good. I don't think the one I'm getting will do so well. I wish you well on the restoration.

v/r

Mike
 
   / New member with a 135 #9  
G.Day LeviR.
Welcome to the site and what a fantastic looking tractor I would say you have done all the right things and it sounds like you are up there with the electrical system this is great maybe you can share your knowledge with us all.
another important one is the grease nipples give them all a wire brush and plenty of grease to flush out any moisture and dust.

Tyre pressures front about 25 psi and rear about 8 to ten psi depending what weight you have on the rear end, folks tend to pump them up to hard
and this tends to cause the tractor to Bounce around ,not very comfortable so remember, the tyre is your suspension .

There are lots of interested helpfull people on the site and i am sure you will gain lots of support for your project, just ask.
Again welcome to the site .
Regards
Hutch.
 
   / New member with a 135 #10  
That's how it sat for 12 years.

It's a testament to just how durable these old tractors really are. After 12 years of sitting out in the weather, they still shine up like a new penny. Try that with one of these new tractors with plastic everywhere. :)
 

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