Mobil M1-103 oil filter GC23xx 24xx 26xx

[tx2310]

My dealer tried to get me to buy a fuel filter at the 50 hr.. So I asked if his fuel I get from him was that dirty that I needed one.

Doug

[Johnny_B]

Originally Posted by tx2310

My dealer tried to get me to buy a fuel filter at the 50 hr.. So I asked if his fuel I get from him was that dirty that I needed one.

Doug

That's pretty funny........

[irvingj]

Plane?? Did somebody say "plane"? Whatcha got, TX?

[ray66v]

Originally Posted by Johnny_B

I'm at 46 hours so I just stocked up on everything for my 50 hour fluid changes on my GC2410.

- 5 gal Traveller Premium Universal Hydraulic Fluid, $39.99
- Agco Hydraulic Filter, $25 (ouch - c'mon Wix, I hope you have one of these in the works)
- Napa Gold (Wix) Oil Filter, $6.20 (from Fleetfilter.com)
- Fuel filter, $6.71

I also stocked up on two 6-packs of Mobil 1 10w-30 when Costco had it on sale for $22 per pack. I've heard lots of varying opinions about using synthetic oil at the 50-hour interval due to the break-in period, but according to my dealer and folks at Exxon-Mobil, those are myths not based on any scientific evidence and Mobil 1 is fine to use in even brand new engines right off the factory floor.

Your using synthetic oil in the engine, and the cheapest stuff you can get in the trans???

Whatever engine oil you, use make sure it is rated for a diesel engine. Diesel oils have special anti soot, and anti acid additives that are important.

Amsoil has synthetic oils for both ends.

[DEWFPO]

I agree with Ray66V, verify that the M1 10W30 is diesel rated. M1 makes a 5W40 oil that is specifically diesel rated.

The only synthetic 5W30 diesel oil I found when I was doing my 50 hour service was Amsoil's HDD 5W30 diesel oil.

DEWFPO

[ray66v]

Amsoil's ACD 30 weight diesel oil, also qualifies as a 10W30.

[Johnny_B]

I probably should be using the cheapest oil that meets the specs b/c I'm probably wasting my money on the syn stuff, but I guess I'm one of the people who jumped on the synthetic oil bandwagon. Plus I buy it for my car and it was on sale, so I figured I'd use it in the tractor. According to the bottle and the website, Mobil-1 synthetic is rated for diesel API CF and CD use, so the 10w-30 is safe to use for my application.

The hydro fluid is cheap (in price), but it meets all the specs. Plus when I bought the over-priced filter at my dealer, he said he actually sells more "generic" hydro fluid than he does of all the brand specific fluids collectively. He said there is no difference and if it meets the specs you will not void the warranty or cause any damage to the hydraulic system.

[ray66v]

Originally Posted by Johnny_B

The hydro fluid is cheap (in price), but it meets all the specs. Plus when I bought the over-priced filter at my dealer, he said he actually sells more "generic" hydro fluid than he does of all the brand specific fluids collectively. He said there is no difference and if it meets the specs you will not void the warranty or cause any damage to the hydraulic system.

Yes, the cheap stuff will work. However, occasionally some posters report problems with using it in a hydraulic transmission. Problems that go away when they switched back to Permatran.

The scary long warm up times, recommended in the owners manual for cold weather, suggest the need for synthetic oil since they protect better in extreme temperatures. I think the transmission and hydraulic pump lifespan will benefit enough to justify the added expense.

As a side note: I recommend you use an EP rated gear lube in the front axle, rather than hydraulic oil. MF allows the use of either. Hydraulic fluid cannot hold up near as well as EP lube under the pressures created in these gears.

[WilliamBos]

Originally Posted by ray66v

Yes, the cheap stuff will work. However, occasionally some posters report problems with using it in a hydraulic transmission. Problems that go away when they switched back to Permatran.

The scary long warm up times, recommended in the owners manual for cold weather, suggest the need for synthetic oil since they protect better in extreme temperatures. I think the transmission and hydraulic pump lifespan will benefit enough to justify the added expense.

As a side note: I recommend you use an EP rated gear lube in the front axle, rather than hydraulic oil. MF allows the use of either. Hydraulic fluid cannot hold up near as well as EP lube under the pressures created in these gears.

What EP Lube are you using Ray?? May change our out. FWD is engaged all winter long, so it would be nice to have more piece of mind.

Are you using Permatran or Amsoil in the hydro?? Which Amsoil?

[Johnny_B]

Originally Posted by ray66v

As a side note: I recommend you use an EP rated gear lube in the front axle, rather than hydraulic oil. MF allows the use of either. Hydraulic fluid cannot hold up near as well as EP lube under the pressures created in these gears.

Thanks for the advice, I'll look into using the gear lube.