Massey 230 Hydraulics...

[Greatfoot]

I am new to tractors, having purchased a 1981 Massey 230 with the Perkins, only 1500hrs on it. I do have a basic understanding of hydraulics, though, this tractor mystifies me.
It has an Ezee-On loader with it, but I can't seem to figure out how to run the loader and the hitch at the same time. I have been through the various settings on the draft and hitch levers but it doesn't seem to have enough jam to run them both. If I leave a blade on the hitch, there's not enough power to run the loader. If I want to run the loader, I need to remove the blade from the hitch and chain the hitch in place to build up enough back pressure to run the loader. When I go to raise the loader, the hitch comes up until it meets resistance from the chain, then the loader starts to move.

Does anyone out there run a loader with stuff on the hitch? If so, could I see a picture of how you've got your hydraulics rigged?

Currently, there is only one hydraulic line out to my loader, through a diverter, through the loader controls and back into the transmission housing. The diverter really only functions as an on-off, since it only has one line in and one line out.

I would really like to get this sorted out, it's a pain removing the blade to run the loader, ideally, I'd like to be able to used them both, not at the exact same time mind you, but without having to add or remove attachments.

I'll try to figure out how to post some pictures to help with my descriptions.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Cheers

 

[Greatfoot]

The first image is how I need to chain down the hitch to get power to the loader.

The second is showing both the supply and return lines to the loader.

The third is where the return is.

The fourth is the supply.

The fifth is the useless(?) diverter block.

Thanks.

 

[kensnelling]

You've probably already found some of this out, but I'll add what I know.

The MF 230 hydraulic pump doesn't flow enough to operate the loader and 3 point at the same time. To do that you would need to add an auxiliary pump, either crankshaft driven (not recomended) or pto driven. There may be another option, but I'm not aware of one.

On my '80 MF 230 I have a Bush Hog brand loader, plumbed totally different than yours, with a diverter valve that does shut off the seperate circuits so I can run the loader with out the 3 point operating at the same time.

If you need more information, or pictures of my set up, let me know.

Ken

 

[Jerry/MT]

The first image is how I need to chain down the hitch to get power to the loader.

The second is showing both the supply and return lines to the loader.

The third is where the return is.

The fourth is the supply.

The fifth is the useless(?) diverter block.

Thanks.

I have a priority valve on my Ford 4610 that's built into the system and allows me to use the 3 pt or the Ezee On loader (via the remote valves). I think you don't have one and it's either/or for you.

That diverter valve probably allows you to select which one you are going to use.

 

[J_J]

Whatever flow you have, if all the valves are in series

In general, when you have two valves in series, the first valve inline has priority, and can use all of the pump flow. If the first valve only use some of the fluid, the rest of the pump flow can be used by the rest of the hyd system.

If you have a priority circuit then you can select whichever circuit you wish to operate.

Very few people have a need to use both 3PT and loader at the same time.