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    Default MF 200 crawler loader, lost forward

    Hi Guys, I am guessing there won't be a lot of you out there that can help me but I am giving it a try. I have an old MF200 crawler/loader with a 3 cyl perkins diesel and a forward reverse shuttle with 4 gears.
    I picked this up out of a field where it had sat and after a little work was able to fire it up and runs good. I was using it to grade my parking lot, and was going fine until I lost the forward drive. It shifts to reverse and goes but shifting to forward does nothing. I have no manual at all on this and would appreciate any suggestions on how to tackle this problem.
    Thanks

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    Default Re: MF 200 crawler loader, lost forward

    Mind you, I'm just taking a shot in the dark here... But, that sounds an awful lot like the manual shuttle shift, acting up on my old Case backhoe I had.

    The shaft that runs horizontal in through the shifter cover, (it is all one piece on the Case, shifter handle makes a 90 degree angle into the shift cover) and works the shifting fork, has fine splines, and a 1/8" spring/roll pin, cross drilled to hold the fork, on the shaft in place. The splines on mine were wore so bad, it would allow the tiny roll pin to shear. For some reason it would shift into forward, but not enough drag, to shift it into reverse.

    It may be something as simple as that, or at least I'm hoping for you. I did replace the roll pin in mine, and it was fine, but found a complete cover with shifter on ebay for $35.00. I went ahead and switched it out. That one had been welded in place, so apparently it was a common problem.

    If some previous operators "haunched" on it several hundred times, it may very well have the same problem.

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    Default Re: MF 200 crawler loader, lost forward

    thanks we will give that a look see. I think it is something like that or a linkage as opposed to something major. Hard part is getting that apart.

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    Default Re: MF 200 crawler loader, lost forward

    Hi guys new here, but used to old machines.Please note the sign in name!!
    Sorry not much help with your problem.
    The reason of course i found your post is because i have a similar situation, except my 200b does not go forward or back.

    Already pulled the motor and replaced the seal at the torque, it was almost nonexistent. Figured for sure that was the problem, but that wasn't it!


    What was i thinking? A english engine in an italian machine with lucas electrical what could possibly go wrong?LOL

    Any and all help appreciated.Could really use this machine to install a septic system at the young lads place.

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    Default Re: MF 200 crawler loader, lost forward

    Hi I have a mf 200 crawler as well that had a similar problem. There is a hydraulic pump for the reverser that provides pressure to the clutch packs forward and backward. It was not putting out enough pressure to engage the forward clutches properly. Likley the forward clutch in your machine is worn much more than the reversing clutch, possibly that is why is goes backward and not forward. Or possibly the forward clutches are just worn out. The pump is on the side of the motor and not that difficult to change.

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    Default Re: MF 200 crawler loader, lost forward

    Thanks Sniderman, if you where referring to the one of many problems i have(just ask my wife!!!)
    Found a local gent with a repair manual, he graciously had a copy made for me.
    So dove into the transmission.Might have been as simple as either not enough fluid or a clogged filter.
    Having problems locating the side mounted filter.But there is a much finer mesh screen on the bottom pick up.
    The front seal when taking it apart i noticed i could see daylight from the inside of the trans so was not doing much sealing.So anytime you went down a grade it would have pissed fluid.
    Btw the tourque holds 5 litres of 10w30 motor oil.
    Would have it operational i hoped but some idiot tried to install the trans with the mini ex.Does not mention you should not do this in the repair manual!!!(sounded like a good idea at the time)
    So waiting for a few bearings.
    Going to unfortunately be an expert in this machine shortly.
    Happy friday.

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