New Holland 56 rake?

   / New Holland 56 rake? #1  

disco

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Anyone have any input on the 56 rake? I am going to an auction this weekend where there will be one for sale. What should I look for as far as worn parts go? Is this a good model?
I don't know anything about side rakes. Any help would be great.
Thanks Paul
 
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I have a New Holland 55. Just bought this spring and did hay with it. It is by no means brand new but it did the job well. When I brought mine home I filled it with gear oil and it promptly spilled out the bottom. The seal was non existent. I filled with grease and have not looked. back. I don't think you can go wrong with a 56 if the price is right.
 
   / New Holland 56 rake? #3  
These rakes have always been popular and are still bringing good money.
 
   / New Holland 56 rake? #4  
May need tires (ground drive) and tines (new at TSC for $1.29). Even if the bars are bent, easy to straighten and repair. If you are clever, you can easily convert it to hydraulic drive if that's your fancy.
 
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I had a 258 NH for many years. Be sure to check the universal joints on the wheel drive. If it was left in gear with the basket raised, they may be worn prematurely. As far as replacement teeth, the rubber-mounted were always more expensive and more prone to breaking off. If the gear box leaks , another idea in addition to barrybro's, is to mix grease and engine oil half and half to make a thicker lube that shouldn't leak out. if it doesn't have the stock cleated tires, I'd go get a pair, or put mud-grips on it. Auto tires won't have enough traction. Grease it often, the only breakage we ever had on ours was loaning it out.
 
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Disco,

Funny that you ask, I just rebuilt a NH 256 (mid-70s era, I'd guess, don't know for sure) from the ground up this spring. Since it should be pretty similiar to the 56 that you are looking at, I can comment on a few things.

1) The previous posters are right, grease is the way to go for the gearbox. In fact, that is what the manual asks for (and specifically warns against gear oil).
2) The tip to check the play in the universal joints and the shaft of the gear drive (goes from the gearbox to the left wheel axle) is also a good one. I attempted to rebuild and eventually replaced with new... and it wasn't cheap.
3) Check the play in the tine-bars (the long horizontal bars that the tines are attached to) by grasping with both hands and "twisting" front-to-back. Too much play can be worrisome, since replacing the bearing assemblies on each end of the tine bar is a real pain in the neck. Believe me, I know, 5 bars x 2 bearings each means plenty of experience! :)
4) Check for cracks and welds in the frame up near the receiver where you hook up to the tractor drawbar. If somebody ran it into a fence you can get issues there (mine has several welds, although whoever did that work did a good job and it's solid).
5) Check for cracks in the "spider wheel" (5-spoke wheel that the tine-bars attach to). If somebody runs it too low to the ground and really pile-drives the tines into something, the force can crack that wheel. I had to replace one on mine. Later models (I'm not sure of the year) had re-enforcing steel plates on the wheel (where the tine bar attaches). You probably want to check and make sure those are there.
6) Best check that you can do just looking at it is just spin it up with your hands (make sure it's raised up high off the ground, of course). It should spin smooth with no grinding or clanking.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention: It's a great rake! Runs great and very robust. I mean, how often have you seen a design remain basically unchanged for 40 years?

Chet.

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Thanks for all the replies. Great looking rake!
Thanks Paul
 
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Hello everyone,
I found a rake on craigslist. NH 256 it has 4 new tires, 2 new U joints, new drive shaft, (the one between the U joints that goes to the gear box) dolly wheel, all the tines are in place, gear box gone through, gave me extra tines. It really looked well taken care. Brought it home for $1400.00. He wanted more. I thought it was a good deal. Hope to get many years out of it.

Thanks for all the help!

Paul
 
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Great Deal!:) and a Great Rake!
 
   / New Holland 56 rake? #10  
About grease in the gearbox on these rakes...I bought a NH256 last year, and the fellow I got it from rebuilt the gearbox just before I picked it up, and I'm sure he put only gear oil in it. (Has run fantastic--much better than the DaRos tedder I got that had committed suicide, but is feeling much better now $250 later.) So, I read in this post some recommendations to run grease in the gearbox, or mix grease and oil 50/50, and a comment about the shop manual warning against gear oil...so what is the consensus exactly? Anyone have the shop manual, and what does it say?

I'm left thinking I should drain the gear oil out and replace it with some grease one way or the other.
 

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