Hey all, I wondered if anyone has seen an issue like this. I have a 5 month old T2220 w/loader. 2 weeks ago I went up to my enclosed unheated garage and started the tractor. It was about 25 deg F. It would lift the loader and 3 point but would not steer. I moved the steering wheel back and forth and it finally started to work. Called the dealer and they came down to get it. After sitting overnight outside it did the same for them only all hydraulics were not working. New Holland recomended the all season thinner weight hydraulic oil which they did and that did not fix the problen although it was better. Then New Holldand recomended a transmission heater which the dealer installed. The dealer told me that he talked to some other dealers in our area and no one else seems to be having this problem. I am told that the T2220 has a new system that uses a common resivoir for steering and everything. It seems to me that thinner fluid and a trans heater is a Bandaid for a true problem. Any ideas/comments?
4 Month Old T2220 W/Hydraulic Problem
- Thread starter Hudstone
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Hooked_on_HP
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I think the thinner fluid is a bandaid. I could understand the thinner fluid if it was 0deg. I dont think 25 is that cold.
Bill
Bill
Thumper & Buttercup
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Hey Hudstone,
How long did you let the tractor warm up before
trying to use the Hydraulics?? In the owners manual
in regular temps it needs to run before use, on page
2-8 it gives at 32 to 14 degrees you need a 5-10 min
warm up. From 14 to -4 it needs to run 10-15 min,
colder than that you need it to run at least 15+ min.
I'll test ours out on Monday and report back.
Up here I like to let my tractors run for 30+ min
in the cold before I even try to move them.
How long did you let the tractor warm up before
trying to use the Hydraulics?? In the owners manual
in regular temps it needs to run before use, on page
2-8 it gives at 32 to 14 degrees you need a 5-10 min
warm up. From 14 to -4 it needs to run 10-15 min,
colder than that you need it to run at least 15+ min.
I'll test ours out on Monday and report back.
Up here I like to let my tractors run for 30+ min
in the cold before I even try to move them.
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There is no mention of a hydraulic filter change. That shouild have been step one.
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Does the T2220 not have a separate power steering pump and reservoir from the main pump and reservoir?
I just checked the NH website to make sure. The T2220 spec sheet shows to have an implement pump and a steering pump, so it would seem that the main reservoir has nothing to do with steering. The power steering pump and reservoir are independent. I'm confused why a dealer would suggest a transmission heater would solve or even effect a power steering system.
Hudstone, I just re-read your original post and it said the reservoir has been changed. Perhaps I need to dig deeper. I'm surprised NH has combined these functions into one reservoir.
Edit: Well, this was a worthless post. . . I checked the parts diagram and see that there are two pumps, but the power steering reservoir has been eliminated.
I just checked the NH website to make sure. The T2220 spec sheet shows to have an implement pump and a steering pump, so it would seem that the main reservoir has nothing to do with steering. The power steering pump and reservoir are independent. I'm confused why a dealer would suggest a transmission heater would solve or even effect a power steering system.
Hudstone, I just re-read your original post and it said the reservoir has been changed. Perhaps I need to dig deeper. I'm surprised NH has combined these functions into one reservoir.
Edit: Well, this was a worthless post. . .
I checked the parts diagram and see that there are two pumps, but the power steering reservoir has been eliminated.
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Thumper & Buttercup
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Hey Jim,
I'll do a test with mine on Monday, it will
be 0 degrees. I only have the block heater
in her, they do have a HYD heater but I'm not
going to do that unless I need to.
When they delivered it I asked if it was ready
to use this winter and was told it was. It has
the original HYD fluid and filter. The reason I asked
was with my DX25E I was told I had to run a
special filter in the winter.
With my IH1066, when it's cold I start her up
and I go take a brake and let her warm up some, I
have pulled her out of the shop and drove her to the
house and let her run awhile.
I love being a cold weather tester, but I hate
to disappoint you guys, I will not test this at -20.
Thumper
I'll do a test with mine on Monday, it will
be 0 degrees. I only have the block heater
in her, they do have a HYD heater but I'm not
going to do that unless I need to.
When they delivered it I asked if it was ready
to use this winter and was told it was. It has
the original HYD fluid and filter. The reason I asked
was with my DX25E I was told I had to run a
special filter in the winter.
With my IH1066, when it's cold I start her up
and I go take a brake and let her warm up some, I
have pulled her out of the shop and drove her to the
house and let her run awhile.
I love being a cold weather tester, but I hate
to disappoint you guys, I will not test this at -20
.Thumper
Thumper & Buttercup
Gold Member
We'll with temps getting to -24 tonight we
decided to clean the farm today.
Had the tractors block heaters plugged in over
night. The T2220 started right up, no funny
noised, went and started my IH1066, then went
to do other work for 20 min. Temps were -2 outside
and about 18 degrees in the shop.
Pulled my 1066 out of the shop and then took a look at the T2220,
tractor sounded fine no Hyd wine. Took her
out of the shop and started to do the close in work and
get a feel for the loader, tractor ran fine, no surprises
cleaning away the snow, ran her for 1/2 hour with
no problems, put her away and did the blowing
with the IH. The first 10 min I worked her easy just
over half throttle, then I upped the throttle and
got to the hard work.
I do think in these temps I should cover the coolers
a bit to help the tractor maintain heat better. This
is going to be a fun tractor, I do need to get a ballast
box or rig some extra weight in the rear.
decided to clean the farm today.
Had the tractors block heaters plugged in over
night. The T2220 started right up, no funny
noised, went and started my IH1066, then went
to do other work for 20 min. Temps were -2 outside
and about 18 degrees in the shop.
Pulled my 1066 out of the shop and then took a look at the T2220,
tractor sounded fine no Hyd wine. Took her
out of the shop and started to do the close in work and
get a feel for the loader, tractor ran fine, no surprises
cleaning away the snow, ran her for 1/2 hour with
no problems, put her away and did the blowing
with the IH. The first 10 min I worked her easy just
over half throttle, then I upped the throttle and
got to the hard work.
I do think in these temps I should cover the coolers
a bit to help the tractor maintain heat better. This
is going to be a fun tractor, I do need to get a ballast
box or rig some extra weight in the rear.
I slip a bit of heavy cardboard in front of my radiator (TN70A)when it is subzero. I assume it keeps thing a bit warmer. The cardboard is well secured!
It covers around 70% of the surface area.
Bob
Thumper & Buttercup
Gold Member
Thanks Doc Bob,
I've got the 1066 fully covered, just have not
used this one enough, I wanted to see how she
maintained heat today, then engine did fine in
these temps I just think the HYD could use a
little cover also. I'll make a couple small covers
to put on the coolers.
Heck up here I've got everything covered.
I've got the 1066 fully covered, just have not
used this one enough, I wanted to see how she
maintained heat today, then engine did fine in
these temps I just think the HYD could use a
little cover also. I'll make a couple small covers
to put on the coolers.
Heck up here I've got everything covered
.I did let it warm up for about 5 min. Probably should leave it go longer though. The thing that puzzles me is that the problem has slowly gotten worse and that makes me think that there is a problem. I did forget to mention that the first thing that they did was change the filter and that had no affect on the problem. I am basically comparing this one to the TC30 that I had bought new 3 years prior to this one. That tractor never missed a start and always performed well even in adverse conditions. I am concerned with the thinner hydraulic fluids performance next summer. Not sure how the heat will affect it. Any idea?