power beyond port

[gmason]

Yes, there is a Port on the side facing the rear wheel. I felt, and there might even be another on on the front side facing the front of the tractor.

So the return would go there, where would the output one connect to???
thanks
gary

 

[frwinks]

I'm kinda in the same boat, I have a rear remote installed and would like to run the BH off of it. Since the BH came with one male and one female QC, can I just change the female fitting on the BH to a male, hook into the rear remote, engage the remote lever and call it done??

1pic: valve in the right wheelwell
2pic: manifold
3pic: two QC which I would like to use to hook up the BH

 

[MadDogDriver]

Gary,

Referring to my post #5 pics above: Look at that forward hydraulic block manifold/diverter valve and locate the upper left port. That port is the pressure return port back into the tractor. The line from the FEL controller that attaches to that port is the tractor's pressure out. On my tractor it has a male QC screwed into that port and the female QC comes from the FEL controller. You would get your hyd pressure from that FEL line for your BH. To complete the loop, the pressure from the FEL flows into your BH and needs to return to the tractor. Instead of running your BH's pressure return line all the way forward to where the FEL connected to that forward block manifold/diverter valve's upper left port, you could have it return into that rear hyd manifold by replacing the allen plug that faces your right tire and installing a QC to accept your BH's return line.

The flow of hydraulic fluid would then come from the FEL controller into the BH, out of the BH and back into the tractor at that rear manifold.

Getting the modified cover plate for the rear manifold makes life a lot easier for mounting/unmounting your BH.

 

[MadDogDriver]

frwinks,
You could do that, but be very careful that you keep the hyd flow in the correct direction. You'd have to have the ability for your remote to be activated constantly. You'll blow out seals in your BH if the pressure gets reversed.

Your profile doesn't show which tractor or BH you have. Our discussion has been about the TC35/40/45s. The other thing you need to ensure is that your tractor is able to deliver the minimum hyd flow gpm necessary for your particular BH. Some BHs have a PTO pump option if your tractor can't provide the required flow.

 

[gmason]

Gary,


The flow of hydraulic fluid would then come from the FEL controller into the BH, out of the BH and back into the tractor at that rear manifold.

Getting the modified cover plate for the rear manifold makes life a lot easier for mounting/unmounting your BH.

Does this mean, you can't use your FEL when you've got the BH hooked-up to the hydrulics?
gary

 

[gmason]

you have a plug on your cover plate that can be removed (it is a allen) and that is where you run your return line from the backhoe to the tractor.
I have found that it is easyer and cheaper to install the woods hyd kit (lists for $280) then making hoses and then buying all of the fittings and the time to put it all together. I usally even use the woods kits for almost any backhoe that i sell!
ps it makes it faster and nicer to hook up the backhoe no crawling on the ground and running a line up front and trying not to catch it on a limb and tearing it off!
I hope this helps

what size would you say that fitting on my cover plate would be? 1/2", 3/8".
Guess I could just 90deg off that cover to the back of the tractor with a solid line for my return.

 

[MadDogDriver]

Does this mean, you can't use your FEL when you've got the BH hooked-up to the hydrulics?
gary

No, your FEL works just fine with the BH installed. Regarding your question in the photo: Yes, that's the line from the FEL controller that will provide pressure to your BH. Disconnect that line from the forward manifold and connect it to your BH's pressure IN hose. Once you've connected the BH's pressure OUT hose to the rear manifold you've completed the circuit for continuous flow and the FEL, BH, and tractor will be happy. When the tractor's engine is running, that hyd fluid is constantly flowing through the FEL controller, BH and back into the tractor's resevoir. When you disconnect the BH, then you need to reconnect the FEL's controller QC back to the forward manifold as shown in that photo allowing the continuous hyd flow.

 

[frwinks]

frwinks,
You could do that, but be very careful that you keep the hyd flow in the correct direction. You'd have to have the ability for your remote to be activated constantly. You'll blow out seals in your BH if the pressure gets reversed.

Your profile doesn't show which tractor or BH you have. Our discussion has been about the TC35/40/45s. The other thing you need to ensure is that your tractor is able to deliver the minimum hyd flow gpm necessary for your particular BH. Some BHs have a PTO pump option if your tractor can't provide the required flow.

thanks for the reply and sorry for mixing up the models... I updated my thread here:
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/nh-owning-operating/98724-757b-bh-my-1720-a.html
your help is much appreciated

 

[MadDogDriver]

thanks for the reply and sorry for mixing up the models...

No problem and mixing models is no biggie either. Your profile didn't show anything and it makes it difficult to know exactly what you're dealing with. Keeping apples to apples helps avoiding misinformation, fortunately NH keeps some similarity between their tractors new & old, big & small.

Welcome to TBN and good luck!

 

[gmason]

OK, just took the leap today and picked up a Bush Hog 765H backhoe from a great nice dealer in Hartsville S.C. T&T tractor.

Came off a 2002 NH TC35D, same as mine, so I know the frame supports will fit perfectly. Don't have a pic yet for it, but I went ahead and got the Rear Remote kit for a great price. They are a CASE dealer so it's says CASE IH, but we all know that the DX35 is the same tractor as NH TC35D.

I'll take some pics of the install sometime soon, but for now here's a picture of the parts included with the kit.