Dying to pick up my old but new to me troy bilt tillers today. One's an older horse i belive with a 6-7 hp tech motor. The other is a econo horse 5hp briggs motor. Neither one of the motors is froze up a plus seeing they both hold comp. Will post pics later in the day. Paid 300 for both not to bad I think. Looking forward to the groups input on pinning down some of the particulars. Talk and share later.