CNH new model numbers

[dqdave1]

Can someone update me on new model numbers that I understand are now showing up on dealers lots. TC 30 is now a ?; TC 34 is a ? TC 45 is a ?

[John_Mc]

Originally Posted by dqdave1

Can someone update me on new model numbers that I understand are now showing up on dealers lots. TC 30 is now a ?; TC 34 is a ? TC 45 is a ?

THe TC 30 is still the TC 30... an economy tractor, no frills, 30 Gross Engine HP, available with 9X3 gear or HST transmission. NH also now makes a T1520 which from the specs appears to be identical to the TC30, except with a larger engine: 35 Gross Engine HP. Other dimensions and 3 pt capacity (1635 lb.) are the same.

According to the NH web site, the TC34A/TC34DA is still being made. It replaces the TC33. Main change is the larger engine, now 35 HP gross. (I believe this is the same angine which was used in the TC 35)

TC45A/TC45DA also still being made. As far as I know, no major changes to this in the last couple of years.

You can see more here: New Holland Boomers

John Mc

[ODT]

The T1520 is a new model, basically a 35hp (gross) TC30. The TC30 has not been discountinued. However, in the near future the TC30 will likely become the T1510, as New Holland has made the decision to revisit Ford's numbering system--witness the TC55 now the T2410 and the new 6000 and 7000 series tractors.

What is new, along with the T1520 is the T2420, built on the same frame as the former TC55 (T2410) but with 5 more hp. The TC48 is gone.

Eventually, the TC31 and TC34 will be renamed as perhaps the T1900 series with the TC35-45 maybe becoming the T2100 series--the renaming will happen, but I don't know when nor am I aware of the exact designation.

[jbrumberg]

It is now my understanding that the TC29DA has been "tweaked up" to the TC31DA. Jay

[John_Mc]

Originally Posted by ODT

The T1520 is a new model, basically a 35hp (gross) TC30. The TC30 has not been discountinued. However, in the near future the TC30 will likely become the T1510, as New Holland has made the decision to revisit Ford's numbering system--witness the TC55 now the T2410 and the new 6000 and 7000 series tractors.

What is new, along with the T1520 is the T2420, built on the same frame as the former TC55 (T2410) but with 5 more hp. The TC48 is gone.

Eventually, the TC31 and TC34 will be renamed as perhaps the T1900 series with the TC35-45 maybe becoming the T2100 series--the renaming will happen, but I don't know when nor am I aware of the exact designation.

Kind of a bummer on the new naming scheme. It was nice having the numbers actually mean something. I guess they must have been running out of numbers (i.e. TC 34 has 35 HP, but TC35 name was already taken). Is there any pattern to the new numbers other than higher number = bigger tractor?

John Mc

[MessickFarmEqu]

The numbering is changing to follow what they do in Europe. Its going to be a global model number system now.

[dynasim]

Why would we want to be like the Europeans?

It is to bad that you can't tell the size from the name. That is a big loss, in my opinion.

In Kansas, the old old license tags had the name of the home county on them, which was very useful for crime prevention(locals could tell if someone was local). They decided that wasn't important, and took the indicator off of the tags. Within 3 years, the indicators were back.

Not having to look up a number in order to get its size is an obviously good thing.

Chris

[MadDogDriver]

Let's see......hmmm.

Fiat owns CNH.
Fiat is in Italy.
Italy is in Europe.......

Oh yea, but our tractor's are ASSEMBLED in the good ol US of A.

Whatever happened to Made in America?.........Outsourcing???

Oh I forgot........we must import our steel too.

At least we still speak ENGLISH........well sort of........

[Robert_in_NY]

How many people know how much hp the TN65 has? Is it 65? No, it is actually 47 pto hp but to keep the numbering system to show it is a bigger machine then the TC45 they used the 65 number. I do not know how many times I have heard people talk about the TN thinking the number was the hp which it isn't.

A standard system is the way to go and is what Ford/NH use to do before the letters series came out. Everyone talks about doing research on tractors before they buy so what difference does it make if you have to look up the specs on these tractors? You would have done that even with the TC line as you would want to compare the different models in the range.

As for the European thing, John Deere is an "American" company and they have used this style of number system since the 60's. Must be the Europeans are finally trying to copy Deere

Don't stress over this setup, it is a much better system as you automatically know the frame size by the first number. How many people on here actually use tractors other then compacts? When you get into the Utility and larger farm tractors NH has a lot of overlap in HP. The difference is the frame so when you have the TN, TL, TS, TM, TG, TJ (those are in order of frame size but most people don't know that) then you have the TT, TD-D, TB and TK which are the same frame size as the other tractors but are price tractors. Is this setup easier to understand? You have to talk to a lot of different people to know what letter means what and even then you will get a bunch of different answers as very few people really know them all. So what good is knowing the hp without knowing the frame size? The TC overlaps the TN, The TN overlaps the TL, The TL-TS, TS-TM, TM-TG and the TG-TJ.

Yeah, the silly Europeans are making things "difficult" to understand by changing from all of this

[jbrumberg]

Now I am really getting Jay