TC35D Won't Start Need Help

BernieSr · 05-04-2008, 01:53 PM

I bought a 2000 TC35D last fall with only 137 hours on it. I used it a little in the fall to cut grass since it has a 84 inch belly mower on it. I put it in the building last fall and went out today to start it and nothing. At first I thought it was the battery so I charged it and that wasn't it because the lights came on full blast. Next I thought it was the seat switch so I hot wired it and that wasn't it. So now I'm stuck, anybody have any idea of what it could be now or were I can look. I'm thinking it has to be a fuse or at worst maybe a mouse ate a wire over the winter but if it did I think I would hear something when I turn the key to start it like snapping, because the wire would be grounding out. I did make sure the shift lever on the lsft is in middle like it needs to be when starting the tractor. I sure hope someone has an idea on what I should look for. I have to fix it in the building since I have a big fifth wheel trailer that I pulled in when I drove the tractor in the building last fall to block the over head door.
Thanks,
Bernie

BernieSr · 05-04-2008, 02:22 PM

TC35D Won't Start Need Help

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I bought a 2000 TC35D last fall with only 137 hours on it. I used it a little in the fall to cut grass since it has a 84 inch belly mower on it. I put it in the building last fall and went out today to start it and nothing. At first I thought it was the battery so I charged it and that wasn't it because the lights came on full blast. Next I thought it was the seat switch so I hot wired it and that wasn't it. So now I'm stuck, anybody have any idea of what it could be now or were I can look. I'm thinking it has to be a fuse or at worst maybe a mouse ate a wire over the winter but if it did I think I would hear something when I turn the key to start it like snapping, because the wire would be grounding out. I did make sure the shift lever on the lsft is in middle like it needs to be when starting the tractor. Can you also tell me the location of the fuses on this tractor, so I can check them. I sure hope someone has an idea on what I should look for. I have to fix it in the building since I have a big fifth wheel trailer that I pulled in when I drove the tractor in the building last fall to block the over head door.
Thanks,
Bernie

Inspector507 · 05-04-2008, 03:06 PM

Make sure you check both PTO levers too.

RoyJackson · 05-04-2008, 03:09 PM

Make sure the PTO (both mid and rear) is in neutral and both your transmission range and gear selectors are in neutral too

cperky · 05-04-2008, 06:47 PM

You may want to have the battery load tested. Most auto parts stores will check it for free if you dont have a tester.

dqdave1 · 05-04-2008, 08:48 PM

check fuses under instrument panel

jinman · 05-05-2008, 06:29 AM

Probably the infamous fuse #2. When you turn on the key, look to see if the PTO light is illuminated on the instrument panel. It does not matter where the PTO lever is. When fuse #2 blows, the PTO light comes on no matter where the lever is.

Replace fuse #2 with a 10 amp fuse or an 8 amp self-resetting circuit breaker. The standard fuse they put in that circuit is 7.5 amps and that's too small. It will blow from time to time. Your battery is probably a little weaker than normal because it sat for a long time. That small amount contributes to this problem. With the larger fuse or CB, you avoid this problem most of the time.

BTW: The fuse panel is under the instrument panel. Remove the two screws on the panel and gently lift it out of the dash. Wipe the dust off the fuses on the left side under the panel and pull the 2nd one from the left. That's fuse #2.

If you want the self-resetting CB, you can order part number 86610928 from your NH dealer. You should also be able to get one from CarQuest as reported by RickB who is a NH technician.

BernieSr · 05-05-2008, 10:56 PM

I checked every fuse from the top and they all check O.K. but I will have to go back and check for the PTO light being on when I move the PTO lever. I do remember see the PTO being lite even when I had the levers dis-engaged. Could it be in the relays since it is completely dead when I turn the key. To me the battery has tons of power since the head lights come on bright. Usually when a battery is low at least the starter clicks when you turn the key. I have 12 volts at the starter, could it be the starter relay since I follow the white wire from the starter to a relay that must do something to the starter.
Thanks,
Bernie

dqdave1 · 05-05-2008, 11:40 PM

Howdid you jumper the seat switch?

jinman · 05-06-2008, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BernieSr

I checked every fuse from the top and they all check O.K. but I will have to go back and check for the PTO light being on when I move the PTO lever.

When you say "...from the top...." do you mean you just looked down at the fuses?

You have to pull the fuse out and look at it from the side to make sure it is okay.

You may have a battery putting out 12 volts, but a fresh battery will put out at least 12.5 volts. That tiny difference seems to contribute to this blown fuse #2 problem.

You could have several problems, but if that PTO light is on, then fuse #2 is your culprit.

05-04-2008, 01:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
BernieSr New Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 18	TC35D Won't Start Need Help I bought a 2000 TC35D last fall with only 137 hours on it. I used it a little in the fall to cut grass since it has a 84 inch belly mower on it. I put it in the building last fall and went out today to start it and nothing. At first I thought it was the battery so I charged it and that wasn't it because the lights came on full blast. Next I thought it was the seat switch so I hot wired it and that wasn't it. So now I'm stuck, anybody have any idea of what it could be now or were I can look. I'm thinking it has to be a fuse or at worst maybe a mouse ate a wire over the winter but if it did I think I would hear something when I turn the key to start it like snapping, because the wire would be grounding out. I did make sure the shift lever on the lsft is in middle like it needs to be when starting the tractor. I sure hope someone has an idea on what I should look for. I have to fix it in the building since I have a big fifth wheel trailer that I pulled in when I drove the tractor in the building last fall to block the over head door. Thanks, Bernie

05-04-2008, 02:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
BernieSr New Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 18	TC35D Won't Start Need Help TC35D Won't Start Need Help -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I bought a 2000 TC35D last fall with only 137 hours on it. I used it a little in the fall to cut grass since it has a 84 inch belly mower on it. I put it in the building last fall and went out today to start it and nothing. At first I thought it was the battery so I charged it and that wasn't it because the lights came on full blast. Next I thought it was the seat switch so I hot wired it and that wasn't it. So now I'm stuck, anybody have any idea of what it could be now or were I can look. I'm thinking it has to be a fuse or at worst maybe a mouse ate a wire over the winter but if it did I think I would hear something when I turn the key to start it like snapping, because the wire would be grounding out. I did make sure the shift lever on the lsft is in middle like it needs to be when starting the tractor. Can you also tell me the location of the fuses on this tractor, so I can check them. I sure hope someone has an idea on what I should look for. I have to fix it in the building since I have a big fifth wheel trailer that I pulled in when I drove the tractor in the building last fall to block the over head door. Thanks, Bernie

05-04-2008, 03:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Inspector507 Super Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,473	Re: TC35D Won't Start Need Help Make sure you check both PTO levers too. __________________

05-04-2008, 03:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
RoyJackson Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 4,392	Re: TC35D Won't Start Need Help Make sure the PTO (both mid and rear) is in neutral and both your transmission range and gear selectors are in neutral too __________________ Roy Jackson JD 790 w/ FEL The 790, a tractor with a vertical exhaust and a hard gear shift lever...symbolic of the MANLY man

05-04-2008, 06:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
cperky Silver Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Middle TN Posts: 193	Re: TC35D Won't Start Need Help You may want to have the battery load tested. Most auto parts stores will check it for free if you dont have a tester.

05-04-2008, 08:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
dqdave1 Platinum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: N. E. Ohio Posts: 965	Re: TC35D Won't Start Need Help check fuses under instrument panel __________________ dqdave1; tc-29D; woods 7500 bh; 7308 fel, land pride tiller, land pride rake, gill pulverizer, 60"mmm. , bucket forks , MZ16H

05-05-2008, 06:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
jinman Super Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Texas - Wise County - Sunset Posts: 8,198	Re: TC35D Won't Start Need Help Probably the infamous fuse #2. When you turn on the key, look to see if the PTO light is illuminated on the instrument panel. It does not matter where the PTO lever is. When fuse #2 blows, the PTO light comes on no matter where the lever is. Replace fuse #2 with a 10 amp fuse or an 8 amp self-resetting circuit breaker. The standard fuse they put in that circuit is 7.5 amps and that's too small. It will blow from time to time. Your battery is probably a little weaker than normal because it sat for a long time. That small amount contributes to this problem. With the larger fuse or CB, you avoid this problem most of the time. BTW: The fuse panel is under the instrument panel. Remove the two screws on the panel and gently lift it out of the dash. Wipe the dust off the fuses on the left side under the panel and pull the 2nd one from the left. That's fuse #2. If you want the self-resetting CB, you can order part number 86610928 from your NH dealer. You should also be able to get one from CarQuest as reported by RickB who is a NH technician. __________________ Jim

05-05-2008, 10:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
BernieSr New Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 18	Re: TC35D Won't Start Need Help I checked every fuse from the top and they all check O.K. but I will have to go back and check for the PTO light being on when I move the PTO lever. I do remember see the PTO being lite even when I had the levers dis-engaged. Could it be in the relays since it is completely dead when I turn the key. To me the battery has tons of power since the head lights come on bright. Usually when a battery is low at least the starter clicks when you turn the key. I have 12 volts at the starter, could it be the starter relay since I follow the white wire from the starter to a relay that must do something to the starter. Thanks, Bernie

05-05-2008, 11:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
dqdave1 Platinum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: N. E. Ohio Posts: 965	Re: TC35D Won't Start Need Help Howdid you jumper the seat switch? __________________ dqdave1; tc-29D; woods 7500 bh; 7308 fel, land pride tiller, land pride rake, gill pulverizer, 60"mmm. , bucket forks , MZ16H

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