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12-31-2012, 07:56 PM #1
E-15 Fuel, who is using it? and why?
I cannot see for the life of me who would be using the Ethanol fuels, all I hear about them is how they are going to mess up our engines,
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12-31-2012, 09:11 PM #2
I don't use it for anything. Even with the government subsidized price, I save money using regular with the better gas mileage I get. Not to mention how much ethanol can foul things up. I feel sorry for folks who live in areas where ethanol is all they're allowed to sell. Just another example of socialists "taking care of us". The environmental disadvantages of corn-based (not cane-based) ethanol production make the whole program a sad, sad joke. Farmers, with their subsidies, might disagree.
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12-31-2012, 10:10 PM #3Bronze Member
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Re: E-15 Fuel, who is using it? and why?
Since there are only 4 or 5 stations in the country selling it, probably not many. I saw nothing that was accurate in the Fox news report. Ethanol is heavier than gasoline, and evil phase separation is the reason your car will be ruined? They probably will be saying that it will cause brake and tire problems next.
I have mixed my own in my 2003 S-10. I have run tanks of up to E50 without any issues. Same or better power. Mileage didn't go down much until about 40-50%E. Anything more than E50 would cause my check engine light to come on - due to the mixture being leaner than expected. Truck still ran ok. It has run 210,000 miles- all with at least E10 and the engine hasn't blown up yet.
Here is another study: Iowa newspaper finds no problems using E15; biofuel could have saved drivers $69m
Currently, the price of gasoline is cheap enough that ethanol is selling for the same price, so there isn't a lot of justification to run E15. But if it is available to me and is cheaper than E10, I would run it.
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12-31-2012, 10:33 PM #4
Re: E-15 Fuel, who is using it? and why?
No good ol days any more.
Most gas stations around my area have 10% crap(oops I mean alcohol).
The diff in milage sucks.
My SC motor absolutly hates the crap.
How about we grow edible corn and use other proven alternatives for fuel.(and lubricants)Necessity breeds ingenuity.
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01-01-2013, 11:11 AM #5
Re: E-15 Fuel, who is using it? and why?
I heard them report that E-15 was equivalent to a 84 octane, which is to me unspeakable to use in any engine, I remember when having to run at least a 92 octane to get half-way good performance from an engine, but once you started running the 92 we had to keep using it, otherwise running anything lower like the 89 octane would have our engine pinging & knocking, 87 octane would require having to use a octane boost additive, So I for-see if using the E-fuels it will be necessary to use a octane boost additive, or stay driving in the little-old-lady-lane on the Interstates,
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01-01-2013, 12:36 PM #6Veteran Member
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Re: E-15 Fuel, who is using it? and why?
After 20 some years of E10 use I have seen no ill effects. That covers snowmobiles, chain saws, lawn mowers cars, outboards, weed whacker etc..
On the up side, I have not had a frozen fuel line with E10.
Up here it's E10 only for the past ten years, there's been no mayhem and destruction.
I can't imagine E15 being much different.Steve
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01-01-2013, 12:51 PM #7Platinum Member
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01-01-2013, 12:53 PM #8
Re: E-15 Fuel, who is using it? and why?
I haven't seen E15 on the street yet, and I plan to avoid it like the plague. It's rotten enough now that I have no choice at all but to use E10 or switch to diesel vehicles. The nearest 100% gasoline station is over 200 miles from here and there are only a handful left in the entire state. A dying breed unfortunately.
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01-01-2013, 01:03 PM #9Platinum Member
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01-01-2013, 02:18 PM #10Elite Member
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Re: E-15 Fuel, who is using it? and why?
The idiots in Washington listen to the onesided views of environmentalist who are well funded to set the examples for the rest of us to follow. The enviros seldom show the true picture or even want the whole picture it it doesnt suit their agenda. A few kucklehead "scientist" did a 10 minute study showing how clean alcohol burned and the thing went viral to the world saying that we could reduce the pollution by 85% if we used alcohol (E85) but then car makers said no way the fuel systems wont handle it so they settled for 10% which gets 10% less mileage so we burn the same amount of gas. All this time, eviroheads are lobbying the car makers to change their fuel systems to burn the alcohol so they can up the content so we can get even worse gas mileage. Its a deadly spiral that will eventually kill the automobile which is what the environmentalist want for America (except for themselves that is). What is hypocritical of the envirohead is them driving or flying thousands of miles to participate in a rally to demonstrate against atmosphere pollution which is as bad as our president taking his entourage a few thousand miles via AF1 and all the ancillary aircraft and automobiles that run ahead to set up security to plant a tree and burning a couple hundred thousand gallons of fuel to do it.
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