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I was digging around on the web for data on what the heck "Super UDT" properties are in comparision to either UDT or Amsoil or any other fluid. I didn't find that but I found this. It may be of some interest. It lists the properties of a few of the more popular THF's.
http://www.lubrizol.com/ReadyReferen...tractable1.htm Also general specs on fluids; http://www.lubrizol.com/ReadyReference/default.htm If you like it, enjoy! [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img] John Bud |
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In case your interested I just found a tractor Hydraulic oil who's speccs actually say it is to be used in place of Super UDT. It is Chevron Synthetic All Weather THF. This is the only oil to my knowledge to say Super UDT on the label.
FYI Greg H |
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![]() Chevron Synthetic Hydraulic Fluid for Farm/Tractor Use: Chevron Synthetic All-Weather THF Chevron All-Weather THF is a truly unique, high quality, multifunctional fluid, specially formulated for use in transmissions, final drives, wet brakes, and hydraulic systems of tractors and other equipment employing a common fluid reservoir. Chevron All-Weather THF is specially designed for unsurpassed operation in all types of weather - both severe winter cold and extreme summer heat. In fact, Chevron All-Weather THF meets the requirements of both John Deere J20C and J20D specifications. This, combined with excellent oxidation stability, eliminates the need for seasonal oil changes. Its distinctive orange color provides for easy product identification and leak detection. · Chevron Synthetic All-Weather THF is recommended for use · as a multifunctional and multiseasonal fluid in all types of tractors and construction equipment. · in any application which calls for the following OEM lubricant specifications: John Deere - J20C, J20D AGCO - improved power fluid 821XL Ford New Holland - ESN-M2C134-D, FNHA-2-C-201, FNHA-2-C-200 Massey Ferguson - M1135, M1141, M1127, M1129A White Farm Equipment - Q-1826 Case - JIC-143, JIC-145, MS 1206, MS 1207 Oliver - Type 55 Minneapolis-Moline Fluids Caterpillar TO-2 Renk - Bus Automatic Transmission Fluid Allison C4 Kubota Super UDT, UDT International Harvester B6 {from the web} |
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Greg and John,
Thanks! I am at 47.5 hours and counting till the first 50 hour change out. I really do want a "better" fluid for winter use, but not at the cost of summer use! The Chevron product sounds like the hot ticket. John Bud ![]() |
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John,
Does your owners manual say to "change" the hydraulic fluid @ 50 hrs or just the hydraulic filter? I'll double check the JD manual, but I thought it said change hy. fluid either 300 or 500 hrs. & the hy. filter @ 50 hrs. Maybe the "HST" units are different? And yes, I agree, I'd wait til late Fall for the full treatment of synthetic hydraulic fluid... for the most benefit of your $$$. |
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Hi John,
{I stand to be corrected...} This is from my JD owners manual on my JD5205: First 100 hours: Replace transmission-hydraulic filter {Not Oil} Every 250 hours:Replace transmission-hydraulic filter Every 1200 hours:Change transmission-hydraulic oil and filter |
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John,
Kubota service manual states that at 50 hours to change; Engine Oil Engine oil filter Hydraulic oil filter Transmission Fluid Front Axle case oil There's a bunch of Checks and Tightens too. Thanks for making me check! It's always fun to look into the service manual. (No, I DON'T get out much, why do you ask?) John Bud ![]() |
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Hi John,
I guess I'm surprised at changing the fluid so early... on the other hand, I don't have a hydrostatic tranny either. So I imagine this is typical of HST's? Just wondering...[img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img] |
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John,
I dunno, I would think that there is a lot of shear forces acting on the fluid in an HST and at least 3HP of pure heat added to the mix. (power loss greater than a gear tranny) With all that going on, I think its a good idea to change the fluid often! As they say, your milage may vary... John Bud ![]() |
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