Nah, you're not an idiot. If you are, we both are. The first time I loaded a grease gun, I had grease up to my elbows and all over the body of the gun. The only way I could hold it was in a vice. It was obvious that there had to be an easier way to do it so I did what you did, I asked somebody. I wonder how many of us had the same first time experience that you just had. Probably more than are willing to admit it. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif