pto-HP needed for tiller

nickmech · 05-15-2008, 02:15 AM

If my Kubota B3030 has 24 hp at the pto, what could happen if I borrow a sicma rototiller that I think is rated 35 hp plus? It is a heavy 60 in. tiller. I don't want to break the machine by overloading the pto rating. Anyone have experience with this?

Egon · 05-15-2008, 06:37 AM

Try it and see if you can lift it. For the tilling you could always remove several rows of tines.

The tilling will also depend on the type of soil you are working with.

Does it have a slip clutch or shear pins?

jimgerken · 05-15-2008, 01:22 PM

I have a 2520, 20.5 pto HP. Recently I bought a KK gear drive 60 inch tiller. It works fine. Of course, the tractor is hydrostatic. If it was geardrive, I would not be able to go slow enough. The throttle must remain pretty much at PTO speed.

nate_m · 05-15-2008, 02:40 PM

I run a 60" tiller on a JD2520 as well. No problems in heavy Ohio clay (no rocks). 1 pass with shoes all the way up. Perfect seed bed.

North Dakota · 05-15-2008, 02:56 PM

I run a 60 inch KK tiller with my ford 1710 24 HP at PTO with know problems

deere755 · 05-15-2008, 07:46 PM

I use a 56 inch behind my 15 pto hp 755 and get along fine.

jbrumberg · 05-16-2008, 08:03 AM

nickmech:

Your B3030 and my "29" are similar in capabilities. I agree with Egon as it relates to the 3PH's ability to lift the tiller as well as the "balance" of the set up. You could always put some weight in your FEL to keep the front down. And as Egon mentionned you can always remove the outer tines if there is insufficient PTO HP. I suspect that you will not have any problems with the simca. You can always till your first pass pretty shallow, but a lot does depend on what you are tilling. Jay

xlr82v2 · 05-16-2008, 06:06 PM

In my experience, a minimum of 3.5hp/ft is a good rule of thumb.

PaulChristenson · 05-17-2008, 01:28 AM

Chaindriven tillers need less HP than Geardriven tillers...

All other things being equal...

InlineDieselFan · 05-17-2008, 01:38 AM

Soil conditions, speed of travel, depth are all big factors.

I have 27 PTO and run a 72" tiller in heavy clay, last summer (read dry hard packed clay) I broke ground with the tines of the box blade digging in several inches. Then on with the tiller and I tilled about 4 inches or so down, then I lowered the tiller all of the way down and my little Kubota never missed a beat. This spring I retilled the garden and it was no problem.

I would go plently wide you can always remove some tines, or make a few passes if needed.

This spring before the clay dried out I tilled some virgin ground and had no problems going down 6-7 inches.

steve

05-15-2008, 02:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
nickmech New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Whatcom County, Wa. Posts: 23	pto-HP needed for tiller If my Kubota B3030 has 24 hp at the pto, what could happen if I borrow a sicma rototiller that I think is rated 35 hp plus? It is a heavy 60 in. tiller. I don't want to break the machine by overloading the pto rating. Anyone have experience with this?

05-15-2008, 06:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
Egon Super Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 8,937	Re: pto-HP needed for tiller Try it and see if you can lift it. For the tilling you could always remove several rows of tines. The tilling will also depend on the type of soil you are working with. Does it have a slip clutch or shear pins? __________________ Egon 50 years behind the times Livin in a Worn out skin bag filled with rattlin bones

05-15-2008, 01:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
jimgerken Platinum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 696	Re: pto-HP needed for tiller I have a 2520, 20.5 pto HP. Recently I bought a KK gear drive 60 inch tiller. It works fine. Of course, the tractor is hydrostatic. If it was geardrive, I would not be able to go slow enough. The throttle must remain pretty much at PTO speed.

05-15-2008, 02:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
nate_m Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pleasant Plain, OH Posts: 36	Re: pto-HP needed for tiller I run a 60" tiller on a JD2520 as well. No problems in heavy Ohio clay (no rocks). 1 pass with shoes all the way up. Perfect seed bed. __________________ ~ Nate JD 2520 Woods 72" Rear Blade, Woods 60" Rotary Cutter Muratori 58" Tiller RamSplitter 3pt Logsplitter KK Middlebuster Plow

05-15-2008, 02:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
North Dakota Bronze Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mandan ND Posts: 94	Re: pto-HP needed for tiller I run a 60 inch KK tiller with my ford 1710 24 HP at PTO with know problems __________________ '84 ford 1710, 5 ft Farm King Cultivator, 5 ft KK Tiller,770B Loader. "God, I hate the Green Bay Packers"

05-15-2008, 07:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
deere755 Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: central Illinois Posts: 450	Re: pto-HP needed for tiller I use a 56 inch behind my 15 pto hp 755 and get along fine.

05-16-2008, 08:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
jbrumberg Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Western MA Posts: 1,854	Re: pto-HP needed for tiller nickmech: Your B3030 and my "29" are similar in capabilities. I agree with Egon as it relates to the 3PH's ability to lift the tiller as well as the "balance" of the set up. You could always put some weight in your FEL to keep the front down. And as Egon mentionned you can always remove the outer tines if there is insufficient PTO HP. I suspect that you will not have any problems with the simca. You can always till your first pass pretty shallow, but a lot does depend on what you are tilling. Jay __________________ NH TC29DA with 14LA and HD QA 60" bucket, weighted R-1's, FOPS, CCM M-160 (58") Tiller, Tebben MD 60" Rotary Cutter, Woods LR 108 (96") Landscape Rake, FEL cutting edge and tooth bar, Woods GB60 (60") Box Blade

05-16-2008, 06:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
xlr82v2 Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Longing for Spring, somewhere in Randolph County, Illinois. Global Warming, my rear end! Posts: 523	Re: pto-HP needed for tiller In my experience, a minimum of 3.5hp/ft is a good rule of thumb. __________________ _____________________ Brian 2007 Mahindra 3525 1952 Ford 8N

05-17-2008, 01:28 AM	#9 (permalink)
PaulChristenson Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,485	Re: pto-HP needed for tiller Chaindriven tillers need less HP than Geardriven tillers... All other things being equal... __________________ Paul in VT

05-17-2008, 01:38 AM	#10 (permalink)
InlineDieselFan Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Adna, WA Posts: 425	Re: pto-HP needed for tiller Soil conditions, speed of travel, depth are all big factors. I have 27 PTO and run a 72" tiller in heavy clay, last summer (read dry hard packed clay) I broke ground with the tines of the box blade digging in several inches. Then on with the tiller and I tilled about 4 inches or so down, then I lowered the tiller all of the way down and my little Kubota never missed a beat. This spring I retilled the garden and it was no problem. I would go plently wide you can always remove some tines, or make a few passes if needed. This spring before the clay dried out I tilled some virgin ground and had no problems going down 6-7 inches. steve __________________ Kubota L3430HST with 723 loader and 6'bucket, Greenline 6" & 12" post hole digger, Land Pride 5' Brush hog, toothbar, 72" land Pride box blade, canopy, Kuhn 6' rototiller, 8' landscape rake.

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