Harv, (may I call you Harv or do I address you with more dignity now that your a moderator, you know like your majestic most honorable majaharvey)? The toothbar on my tractor comes off quite frequently. Its quite heavy but I never really pick it up, I just slide it around and tap it on. I take it off to smooth and level as it is much easier to do with it off. It works extremely well for tree removal as the teeth can easily get into roots and grab into branches that a flat face bucket just can't. Even picking up piles of brush is now possible where before its tough to get much other then what would fit in the bucket. I particularly like back dragging with the teeth to open up the soil that is to wet to help it dry out as I did yesterday in a low lying area. Don't skimp and get a light weight one if they even make them. Mine has some pretty heavy steel in it and I can still bend things around, some of this may be due to the L48's large lift capacity. Now that I have used a toothbar, I would never not have one., it is extremely valuable. As mentioned, you can even use it for debris removal like a rake. Get one, they work great and make that front flat lip on your bucket useful for grabbing into piles of brush. Rat, Majarat...