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    Default Charging the dirt pile

    I just finished a grading job on a landscape project for another landscaper. The site was wooded and difficult to turn in, so they had me do it with my small kubota. They couldn’t get the delivery trucks into the wooded area so they dropped it about 50-60 yards away. There were 15 dump loads that were 12-14 yards each.

    As I hurried to move and level the dirt (it took 15 hours, split over two days and in record 107 degree heat) I noted that I kept “charging the pile”. I’d pull into the dirt, shift into low, pull forward as far as it would go and curl the bucket. Then I’d try to lift it and I’d push down on the hydro to push into or charge the pile. I knew the bucket was full, but against all reason, I’d try to push into the pile deeper. Do we all do this? Or is it just one of my quirks?

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    Default Re: Charging the dirt pile

    Turfman
    I do not push forward while curling the bucket. But raise FEL and pop the curl back and forth until dirt has settled into bucket. I can’t see what’s in bucket but I still do it.

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    Default Re: Charging the dirt pile

    The best way I've found to load is to pull up into the dirt in 2nd or 3rd gear low and when I get a little slippage, curl the bucket and raise. The JD (1050) doesn't have the lifting power If I keep pushing... I still get a full load. I understand the rush feeling tho. Yesterday I helped set the garage header for my cousin's new house. I had to move some fill sand to have a level place for the tractor while they secured the beam. I was a little rushed while doing this as *I* was holding up the works. I managed to spin a little while loading but I got it done. So relax while loading and it works better.

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    Default Re: Charging the dirt pile

    <font color=blue>Do we all do this?</font color=blue>

    Probably; hard habit to break, ain't it?[img]/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Charging the dirt pile

    Hmmm... [img]/w3tcompact/icons/hmm.gif[/img]

    I push into the pile with an approximately level-to-the-ground bucket. Then, as I feel the tractor starting to bog down, I start to curl just enough to keep my forward motion going. When fully curled, I stop all forward motion and lift.

    If it's a well-defined pile, this seems to give me a full bucket every time. If the pile is piddly, or I'm just getting near the end of one, I just do the best I can, which unfortunately winds up with me driving all the way the destination delivery point only to dump about a cupful of payload. [img]/w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif[/img] They should make buckets out of that transparent aluminim I saw in that Star Trek movie with the whales.

    Ron brings up an issue I've wondered about. After I scoop up a load of material, I generally want to "settle" the load, too. It's usually stacked up at the front edge of the bucket, just waiting for me to hit that first bump so it can bounce right back out. I try a little dump/curl action, but if that fails, I raise the loader a bit and then drop it part way sort of quickly. The sudden stop at the end does a good job of settling the load, but I'm guessing it puts quite a strain on the loader arms, sub-frame, front axles, etc.

    Am I killing my tractor?

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    Default Re: Charging the dirt pile

    One way to load your bucket is to raise the bucket to the top of the pile or has high as it will go, tip the bucket 90 degrees down and lower the edge of the bucket into the pile, back up and lower the bucket as you go. Then load the bucket with the niw loose dirt you just duslogded. A little practise and you can load the bucket without ramming the pile.

    Dan L


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    Default Re: Charging the dirt pile

    <font color=blue>"driving all the way the destination delivery point only to dump about a cupful of payload"</font color=blue>

    I thought I had the market cornered on that manuever. [img]/w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif[/img] One of these days I'm going to find a big piece of polished stainless I can mount out front of my work area so I can see what is or isn't inside my loader bucket.

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    Default Re: Charging the dirt pile

    Well, Being new to the FEL thing, I can tell you, that more than once I arrived at the dumping spot with less then a full bucketful. The idea of using the backdrag method works pretty well to a point, but when the groundpile is small, its hard to pile it higher. I guess patience is the keyword here. Rome wasn't built in a day. Kent

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    <font color=blue> Am I killing my tractor?</font color=blue>

    Harv
    I hope not. [img]/w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gif[/img] Because we will both have dead tractors before long if we continue with our bouncing of the FEL. [img]/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Charging the dirt pile

    <font color=blue>Rome wasn't built in a day</font color=blue>

    Might've been, if they'd had a few CUT's around. [img]/w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif[/img]

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