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    BULLSNOT! If your fuel is jelling at 36 degrees you are buying CRAP fuel that is full of water. Clean #2 oil will NOT gell at -0- degrees.
    OTR rigs with fuel tank heaters are condensation magnets that are guaranteed to suck additional condensation if there is room in the tank when the rig shuts down and cools off.

  2. #12

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    not bullsnot!! diesel cloud point starts at 36. Look it up! And if you can read, you would see I wrote rarely does it happen.

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    Default Re: Jelled fuel?

    I guess it depends on wether your measuring the cloud point (which according to the link below can begin at 32 degrees Fahrenheit), or the gel point, which is lower. There is a simple summary at <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.hastingsfilter.com/engineering/tsb_91-1r.html>Hastings Filter</A>.

    If you don't believe the article above, I guess the more technically minded could do the tests for cloud and gel point determination, as diagrammed on <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.me.iastate.edu/biodiesel/Pages/bio18.html>Diesel Fuel Cold Flow Properties</A>. All temps on this link are in Centigrade. There is a considerable difference in "diesel" gel values depending on origin of the fuel (i.e. biodiesel vs. "dino"diesel)

    Since the process does begin with clouding of the fluid from wax solidification, and it can start at 32 degrees, I'd guess I'd have to go with the NOT bullsnot.


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    The question now is...

    Does clouding~gelled diesel fuel flow at approximately the same GPM flow rate as bullsnot under similar conditions.

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    The cables appear to be fine. The injector pump has a return spring on it so the cables only apply preasure in one direction to increase flow and rpms. When I was futzing with it on Saturday the cables worked easily and when the lever was stuck opened the cables would return to idle by themsleves or with normal operating resitstance. Massey did a good job of "booting" the foot throttle under the platform to keep out dirt. I don't know what it looks like under the dash and was not happy about the prospect of the trouble being under there. You know a dashboard never goes all the way back together again.

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    Obviously I can read, because I read your inane crap. I repear, BULLSNOT!
    Clean diesel fuel does not gell above -0- farenheight. I've heard this crap about gelling #2 oil for 40 years now, and every salesman pushing the line of crap was also pushing a "solution" to a problem that does NOT happen with clean #2 oil.
    If you're getting gelling above -0-, your fuel is full of water and overloaded with parafin. The fuel you are getting is crap.
    Get a jar of water paste and stick the tank.
    FYI, for inqiring minds, bullsnot is close to #4 oil in viscosity.

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    Then you obviously never saw the snotty, slobbering bull I used to have growing up.........[img]/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif[/img]

    Just teasing Franz

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    Default Re: Jelled fuel?

    Interesting reading on gelling, clouding and pouring tempertures.

    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.me.iastate.edu/biodiesel/Pages/bio11.html>http://www.me.iastate.edu/biodiesel/Pages/bio11.html</A>


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    Default Re: Jelled fuel?

    never had a problem with jelled fuel, but i don't think it would cause the problem u had. seems more like a linkage problem.

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    BigPete,
    I would think that gelled fuel is probably thicker....so in the cold it would not flow as well (fresh bullsnot is probably warm).

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