Ok, results were a little different today, I did try jinmans idea of the Carbide drill bit, and I did sever all of the visible roots. (but there were plenty more that were not visible.) I tried to pull again after all the visible roots were cut, and it never budged. So put the home-made bucket shovel back on, and had at it digging for a least 2 or 3 hours non-stop. I kept on digging and popping out roots and rocks so deep the shovel was buried, and the Regular FEL bucket was digging up dirt several inches deep too as I run out of reach on the 18 inch shovel. (bet a shovel for forks would be better as you would not have that problem). Anyway after digging to China, I tried the pull going East again, it never budged. So I move the tractor and went South, This time the huge rock on the West side popped and actually split the rock, The stump started to lean, So I grabbed the camera and the Wife, and the rest is history. I could not have done without my little bucket shovel, It would have defeated me again, but it is just a memory now:thumbsup:
James K0UA