Blake Another advantage to pilot controls is the manvalve can be set further from the controls, less effort to use them, shorter arm movemnts are required, and my favorite no slop in the control. I operated a Koerhing excavator a few weeks ago, Had straight linked controls that had slack in them, seemed like your hands moved a maile for each control, and had to apply alot of effort on thecontrols. It sometimes binded on the movements becase of the combined slop in the contral linkage After that work out all day i swore id been swimming allday. Im used to new Komatsus and Cat excavators, and it was fun trying to catch the slop in the controls along with the slop in the Koerhing's boom. I went to a machinery show a few months ago with a local dealer, he let me operate a new O&K may have been a Leibherr excavator with fly by wire controlls all electric it was great but under the control boot looked like a nice place to find a shorted circuit. The O&K had a nice feature its the siz3 of a 300 Komatsu, They have a 4in1 bucket it opens like a front 4in1 but has and eaxtra lip. used as a thumb. it was fun to operate