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   / diesel prices #41  
Question: Can you name 1 program in the last 230 years that the govt has stepped into that now runs MORE efficiently?

Now you want to put them totally in charge?

What.. there's no Interstate Highway system in Minnesota? No Rural Co-op's delivering electricity, either?

And I wonder who built and still manages to this very day... those dams on the Missouri River that send power to Omaha and Minneapolis all year long?

And yes - those F-16's parked on the tarmac at the National Guard Armory next to the Mpls-St. Paul airport... who is that, anyway?

THE US GOVERNMENT - all red, white and blue.

Oh yah, I forgot the EVERY airport in the US - and we have the most in the world - is owned and managed by the government. Either federal, state or regional government oversight.

AKfish
 
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   / diesel prices #42  
Diesel in Vermont is $4.20/gallon. I use off road in my Kioti CK 30 ($3.80/gallon).

Vermont is more expensive on road because we "tax at the pump". No stickers needed for tax purposes of out of state heavy trucks.

I have a 2005 F-250 diesel as part of my "fleet". In May of 2008, I added a Vegistroke kit to help save me some cash on fuel. The Vegistroke kit lets me run WVO (waste oil - fryolator oil). I collect the oil from local restaurants, clean and filter the oil and then burn it for fuel.

My truck still has the OEM fuel system intact and I can run straight diesel or WVO. Lately I have been running mostly WVO due to the price of diesel.

I frequently travel to Boston, MA, and have found a distributor of cleaned WVO. They sell me cleaned tank ready WVO for $1.90/gallon! I carry a pump in my truck so I can pump directly from their drums directly into my WVO tank in my truck.

They way gas and diesel prices are climbing, I may invest in a usev VW diesel and convert it over to WVO soon.

I'll stay away from politics here, because once I start writing about the BS happening in DC, I can't stop. Although I'm from Vermont, I am definitley not a liberal, or socialist/communist!
 
   / diesel prices #43  
I look for information across a spectrum of sources. There are levels of bias with nearly all of them.

However, Fox is the most blatant and least reliable source for a complete understanding of the issues. While they may not outright "lie"; the presentation is replete with half-truths and info reported out of context.

The net result is to create confusion and misunderstanding. And of course; to further their own ideology.

AKfish

You avoided answering my question. I understand you don't like Fox News.

Now, do you admit CNN and MSNBC lean left?
 
   / diesel prices #44  
To add to AKfish's list of things governments run, seemingly successfully, let's talk about Medicare: as a recently retired guy, the cost and availability of health care insurance is something much on my mind, and I have been following the arguements and trying to learn as much as I can (which is typical of things that affect us directly, right?) and Medicare seems to be doing a fairly good job, with about 3% going to administration, compared to private, for-profit insurance where about 30% seems to be going to overhead. Now, if they're in it for making money, that's fine, but when I can't afford it, I have to worry about how I can pay for some sort of insurance, and that's where Medicare comes in. I am aware of the complaints, but most of them stem from legislated coverages and special requirements. Here in Maryland, we have a lot of rich, plus a lot of very poor people, and health care is regulated more than in some states, probably due to the requirements of taking care of the un-insured, yet we seem to have good health care overall and the costs are under control. Of course, using shock-trauma emergency rooms for your primary care needs isn't very cost efficient, so we must being doing something right to offset that.
I am in favor of universal health care for the basics, with private insurance for those who can afford it in addition. The system we have now, at least in my understanding, is a costly mess with lots of problems, unless you have insurance thru your employer, which leaves way too many people without.
 
   / diesel prices #45  
Yes, sometimes far right, sometimes extreme right, but no longer whack-job right since Glenn Beck was fired.

Wholesale today:

Gas US$3.1136
Fuel oil $3.2949

Like Keith Olbermann and MSNBC... or do you not consider him whack-job left?

Got fuel oil yesterday, $3.499 here.
 
   / diesel prices #46  
You avoided answering my question. I understand you don't like Fox News.

Now, do you admit CNN and MSNBC lean left?

HLN is the only news channel, any other is propaganda from the left or right and not the reason I turn on the news.
 
   / diesel prices #47  
BOHICA- (Bend Over Here It Comes Again) Gotta love it when warmest winter on record, refined fuel is the US's second largest export now, lowest fuel consumption since 2001 and Imported oil went from something like 40% down to 20% now. Gotta love how wall street speculation drives up the price by just the hint of possibly a fuel crisis.

For once I would love to see oil bottom out and see all these traders lose there asses on buying oil futures than maybe they would be a little more reserved about constantly artificially driving the price up. Oil is just the new bubble to put your money.
 
   / diesel prices #48  
I get my news from NPR radio and The News Hour on PBS. I don't bother listening to the rest. I despise Fox news for their half-truths and right wing agenda...but I will admit that CNN, CBS, etc. are "left-leaning".

There is so much "spin" in the media today that the common person simply cannot trust what is presented as "news". Truly objective news sources are rare and invaluable.
 
   / diesel prices #49  
And last time I checked foxnews is in the minority, most outlets like CNN and msnbc are totally and completely committed to converting to communism- I figured a bunch of tractor driving fellas would have more sense than believing Rachel Maddow.

Folks like Maddow, Olberman, Beck, O'Rielly, Limbaugh, etc. are NOT news...they're entertainment. Shows that lean excessively to the left or right are put on the air because their argumentative/combative natures attract viewers and sell ad spots. A person would do well not to put any more stock in these shows than the limited entertainment value they possess.

Read some about Soctrates' "Allegory of the Cave" and you'll find surprisingly relevant insight from somone who lived 2500 years ago.
 
   / diesel prices #50  
miramadar said:
Folks like Maddow, Olberman, Beck, O'Rielly, Limbaugh, etc. are NOT news...they're entertainment.

Quite true! I watch a news show with Shepard Smith on Fox News just before O'Rielly. I admire how several times a week Smith will make a closing comment telling viewers that the news part of Fox's programming is over and the opinion part will consume the rest of the evening. Takes guts to do that on a Murdoch owned, Roger Ailes run network.
 
 
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