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  1. #111
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    Default Re: almost flipped the tractor, really need some help!

    Quote Originally Posted by vtsnowedin View Post
    I am not bothered by the OP dismounting rather then using the loader control to set the rears back down. It is a check your laundry moment and having got that close and being still new with the controls you wouldn't want to pull the wrong lever the wrong way and finish the job. My neighbor who is a new widow got her kubota standing on its nose with rear wheel lifted like a dog on a hydrant. She bailed off and called me. I could push the rear down with my own weight so I redistributed the blocks she had in the bucket applied some down pressure with the loader and backed up slowly with no trouble. She is now very scared of the tractor and never leaves the driveway or road with it.
    I can see all this happening to an new to tractor owner.

    We know in detail about where/how to add rear weight from posters.

    What surprized me in looking at photo just posted again was the design of the FEL mounting. The mounting brackets by design means the loader weight is really on the front axle only as I see it.

    We have a JD310B old backhoe. We were looking for a FEL for the 265 MF and when this JD FEL since it came with a free tractor and backhoe.

    I know we are talking apples and oranges between these to classes of JD's but the mounting point is more like 3 foot more towards the rear tires on our backhoe.

    I see nothing fake looking with the photos. If one has been around much equipment one knows a lot of things can happen. The rear wheels just wanted to be in front.

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    Default Re: almost flipped the tractor, really need some help!

    Looks like a winter day in the Blue Mountains? I reckon at least the location is legit

    mate .. get some fill and hire a dozer to do any bulk earthworks, not worth the risk on those slopes

  3. #113
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    Default Re: almost flipped the tractor, really need some help!

    Quote Originally Posted by JWR View Post
    After 11 pages of gingerly polite comments by others, I am going to risk insult and say to you exactly what my wife said when she first saw the photos. "That was staged."
    Got to disagree with you there...

    Loader bucket too high going downslope, no appreciable weight on the 3PH and no weight in the tires.
    Then a sudden jab on the brakes (especially if he was traveling faster then he should have been)...and the front wheels full lock to the right...he's lucky it didn't continue the rollover.

    Yep, I can see that happening easily.

    And, why would one risk a rather expensive piece of equipment for a TBN thread or other internet posting? That makes no sense whatsoever.

    He probably could have eased the tractor back down with the loader (until gravity took over) but I suspect he panicked and jumped off.
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  4. #114
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    Default Re: almost flipped the tractor, really need some help!

    Roy said "I suspect he panicked and jumped off."

    Maybe he didn't use his seatbelt like he should have and he got bucked off!
    "keep them pots black, shiny, and full of good Food and Fellowship!"
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    Super Star Member RoyJackson's Avatar
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    Default Re: almost flipped the tractor, really need some help!

    Quote Originally Posted by moored4 View Post
    Roy said "I suspect he panicked and jumped off."

    Maybe he didn't use his seatbelt like he should have and he got bucked off!
    Maybe he didn't use his seat belt...if not, I'll wager he will in the future!
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  6. #116
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    Default Re: almost flipped the tractor, really need some help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gale Hawkins View Post
    What surprized me in looking at photo just posted again was the design of the FEL mounting. The mounting brackets by design means the loader weight is really on the front axle only as I see it.

    I know we are talking apples and oranges between these to classes of JD's but the mounting point is more like 3 foot more towards the rear tires on our backhoe.
    Doesn't really matter where it's mounted. If it's mounted rigidly, it creates a moment arm putting the weight mostly out front.

  7. #117
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    Default Re: almost flipped the tractor, really need some help!

    Another angle...

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    Default Re: almost flipped the tractor, really need some help!

    Staged??? that's hilarious.
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    Default Re: almost flipped the tractor, really need some help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Artisan View Post
    Staged ??? But why and to what end? I dunno, seems REALLY far fetched to me.
    Anything is possible but if indeed that is photochopped
    it is INCREDIBLY well done and it would have taken a LOT of time, which
    leads me to again say, "To What End?" To what end would the OP
    wish to do this, with so much time invested in it. Well, to each their
    own, this is a forum and everyone has their own opinions but these
    pictures staged? I think not, "IMHO".

    Chew on this and of corse the camera could be off from parrallel to the
    earth a couple degrees but it looks REALLY close, there are other factors
    as well...
    This a not me "photochopping in angles, I inserted the raster image into
    CAD and measured angles to my drawn lines, WITH ORTHO ON.

    (Getting PopCorn )

    Start Chewin'

    I'm impressed with the CAD capability being an engineer myself; I understand what you are showing. Neat stuff.

    I do not think the photos were doctored or "photoshopped." I do say it is likely that the tractor got jacked up a little bit, the pranksters decided they could run it up higher, hold it in place with a strap and take the pictures. Motive? There are thousands of publicity attempts these days,almost per day, just very few on serious minded tractor forums. If you get a rise out of a large number of people then the pranksters are happy. In this case they should be very happy. I readily admit I could be wrong but I say that is the most LIKELY circumstance. Unfortunately we have no way to know for sure.
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    Default Re: almost flipped the tractor, really need some help!

    I am betting it happened just the way the OP said it did.. I am also betting it scared the crap out of him.. risk a brand new tractor for a stunt? I don't think so.

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