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    Default 4 wheel drive

    How does the 4 wheel drive work on a ford 1500 compact tractor? thanks for your help. karen

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    Default Re: 4 wheel drive

    Welcome to TBN. Question is a little vague. What are you wanting to do with your 4WD?
    I used to do the Hokey Pokey but I turned myself around.

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    Default Re: 4 wheel drive

    Looking at 1510 repair manual , there is a small shift lever just behind trans. & range shift levers on the top right . Shifting this lever forward/down or backwards/up should shift from 2wd to 4wd . Some times you may have to move tractor forward a little for it to shift . Mornally it will shift easier if front wheels are straight , not turned . While turning sharp in 4wd you may notice a jerky pull from the front wheel or wheels . Hope this helps.

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    Default Re: 4 wheel drive

    That's kind of normal on any 4WD. They take a bit of fidgeting to get 4WD to engage. Even my push button 4WD on my push button on my 4WD truck can be a little stubborn.
    I used to do the Hokey Pokey but I turned myself around.

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    Default Re: 4 wheel drive

    4WD does not mean all 4 tires spin / get power, one back wheel will get power, and one front wheel will get power. if the tractor has a differential lock. then when 4WD is engaged and differential lock is engaged. both back tires get power and one front tire gets power.

    it is how tractors to vehicles are setup. part of it is is for turning so nothing binds up and causes wheel slippage. to not putting extra force on transmission to shafts.

    when on pavement or hard surfaces turn 4WD off. pavement and hard surfaces do not allow tires to slip any. and can as a result can put extra forces on things and break 4WD.
    Ryan

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    Default Re: 4 wheel drive

    Quote Originally Posted by boggen View Post
    4WD does not mean all 4 tires spin / get power, one back wheel will get power, and one front wheel will get power. if the tractor has a differential lock. then when 4WD is engaged and differential lock is engaged. both back tires get power and one front tire gets power.

    it is how tractors to vehicles are setup. part of it is is for turning so nothing binds up and causes wheel slippage. to not putting extra force on transmission to shafts.

    when on pavement or hard surfaces turn 4WD off. pavement and hard surfaces do not allow tires to slip any. and can as a result can put extra forces on things and break 4WD.
    All wheels are powered in 4wd. 2 wheels are powered in 2wd.
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    Default Re: 4 wheel drive

    Quote Originally Posted by SPYDERLK View Post
    All wheels are powered in 4wd. 2 wheels are powered in 2wd.
    larry
    so when ya turning with 4WD engaged. the outer front wheel and outer back wheel spins faster and inner wheels (one front and one back) turn slower.

    when ya get stuck in the mud, one front wheel and one rear wheel with just 4WD is engaged. can and will just spin in the mud, leaving the other 2 wheels barely spinning or not spinning at all.

    if a tire is not spinning, to me it is not getting power. at the differential. more so when you are stuck in the mud. or on ice / in snow, and ice skating on 4 tires.
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    Default Re: 4 wheel drive

    Quote Originally Posted by boggen View Post
    so when ya turning with 4WD engaged. the outer front wheel and outer back wheel spins faster and inner wheels (one front and one back) turn slower.

    when ya get stuck in the mud, one front wheel and one rear wheel with just 4WD is engaged. can and will just spin in the mud, leaving the other 2 wheels barely spinning or not spinning at all.

    if a tire is not spinning, to me it is not getting power. at the differential. more so when you are stuck in the mud. or on ice / in snow, and ice skating on 4 tires.
    Yes, the non spinning wheel is not delivering power, technically, since mech power requires motion. But, that wheel is delivering forward force = to that of the spinning wheel.
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    Default Re: 4 wheel drive

    When one rear wheel is spinning either step on the brake for that wheel OR momentarily get off the go pedal (HST) and step on the rear axle lock when the wheels stop turning, then get back on the go pedal. You should have at least 3 wheels turning at this point, about the best you can hope for in a CUT

    Some makes of tractor have pedal layouts that can make this pretty awkward unless you have both legs on the same side..

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    Default Re: 4 wheel drive

    Quote Originally Posted by boggen View Post
    4WD does not mean all 4 tires spin / get power, one back wheel will get power, and one front wheel will get power. if the tractor has a differential lock. then when 4WD is engaged and differential lock is engaged. both back tires get power and one front tire gets power.

    it is how tractors to vehicles are setup. part of it is is for turning so nothing binds up and causes wheel slippage. to not putting extra force on transmission to shafts.

    when on pavement or hard surfaces turn 4WD off. pavement and hard surfaces do not allow tires to slip any. and can as a result can put extra forces on things and break 4WD.

    Not quite.

    With an open differential both wheels are ALWAYS putting the same power to the ground. It's not "three wheel drive" or "one wheel drive". One wheel can be spinning and one can be stopped, but they are experiencing the same torque through the drive axles and putting the same driving force to the ground.

    Open diff means equal torque and unequal speed.
    Locked diff means unequal torque and equal speed.

    So when you lock the differential, both wheels will spin, but one is experiencing more torque and driving the tractor with more force.

    In four wheels drive and the vehicle turning a corner, there is slipping against the ground because the front and rear axles are making a different circle, or traveling a different distance. This is with no center differential in the transfer case to allow different speeds between the front and rear axles. So there is binding, but it's not a big deal unless the tractor is heavily loaded and on dry pavement.

    Watch this video for better understanding:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYAw79386WI]Around The Corner (1937) How Differential Steering Works - YouTube[/ame]
    John

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