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boggen
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- Trivoli, IL
- Tractor
- SSTT (Sideways Snake Tain Tractor) and STB (sideways train box) tractor, dirt harvester
added 4 other possibility, adding in a few hinge spots i forgot to draw in. and redid labeling...
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my mind says, i want to keep implement as close to the engine box / front drive wheels as possible. some of it is for folding up. part of it is to reduce stress (longer a cylinder has to reach more prone it would be to bend, just like anything else, joists, rafters, cathedral ceilings with a beam going through it from side to side....)
with above said, that would knock out row 1 completely. due to top link / top cylinder, would automatically force anywhere from 6 inches to a couple feet distance between engine box and implement when folded up. and just unfolded and ready for field use....
which leaves row 2 as possibilities.... again i am not really liking lower cylinder being placed on rear end of engine box. were the cylinder itself (not the rod) would cause a gap between engine box / front drive wheels and the implement. that would remove 2A, 2B, 2F
but for 2B and 2F what if we slightly changed were the cylinder connected to engine box for these 2.... by moving connection point of cylinder not on the back, but on the bottom of the engine box.... added 2 more possibilities as 2H and 2I to refelect changes of 2B and 2F.
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slimmed down version of what is left to choose from...
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biggest difference.... you have drive wheels are fixed in a single distance, then drive wheels attached to the solid bar. so wheels move up and down. while at same time moving the lower arms up and down.
i really do not see much difference between lower cylinder being on the front. or rear of engine box. you will still have same amount of travel.
i suppose if cylinder is on the rear. you could have adjustable spots were solid bar (purple) on front side. attached to the support frame that went down. to allow adjustments that way.... if you had to walk around back of machine to adjust were solid bar (purple) attached to support frame, you would be climbing over implements and everything else.... that would remove 2C, 2D, 2E and 2G
hhmmsss looking back and thinking of how things would fold/unfold... the top cylinder is really still to high.... back to the drawing board....
View attachment 279640
my mind says, i want to keep implement as close to the engine box / front drive wheels as possible. some of it is for folding up. part of it is to reduce stress (longer a cylinder has to reach more prone it would be to bend, just like anything else, joists, rafters, cathedral ceilings with a beam going through it from side to side....)
with above said, that would knock out row 1 completely. due to top link / top cylinder, would automatically force anywhere from 6 inches to a couple feet distance between engine box and implement when folded up. and just unfolded and ready for field use....
which leaves row 2 as possibilities.... again i am not really liking lower cylinder being placed on rear end of engine box. were the cylinder itself (not the rod) would cause a gap between engine box / front drive wheels and the implement. that would remove 2A, 2B, 2F
but for 2B and 2F what if we slightly changed were the cylinder connected to engine box for these 2.... by moving connection point of cylinder not on the back, but on the bottom of the engine box.... added 2 more possibilities as 2H and 2I to refelect changes of 2B and 2F.
View attachment 279641
slimmed down version of what is left to choose from...
View attachment 279642
biggest difference.... you have drive wheels are fixed in a single distance, then drive wheels attached to the solid bar. so wheels move up and down. while at same time moving the lower arms up and down.
i really do not see much difference between lower cylinder being on the front. or rear of engine box. you will still have same amount of travel.
i suppose if cylinder is on the rear. you could have adjustable spots were solid bar (purple) on front side. attached to the support frame that went down. to allow adjustments that way.... if you had to walk around back of machine to adjust were solid bar (purple) attached to support frame, you would be climbing over implements and everything else.... that would remove 2C, 2D, 2E and 2G
hhmmsss looking back and thinking of how things would fold/unfold... the top cylinder is really still to high.... back to the drawing board....