LD1
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In traction situations, no the added HP isnt really noticed. But when using the PTO, or when pulling in higher gears, it is noticed.
In traction situations, no the added HP isnt really noticed. But when using the PTO, or when pulling in higher gears, it is noticed.
Not specific to JD, but our experience is quite definite in comparing the 2 Kub Ls. Driving the same 5' bushog the 3450 is much better. This advantage comes in its relative ease in accomodating the natuaral variance in the work. If all work was done on the flat it would be much less noticeable but if youve no, or little reserve the hills slow you down and make the job less enjoyable.This fact does not escape me. I am questioning the degree of difference . Surely if one is cutting grass with a 5 hp mower and then goes to a 9 hp mower, differences will be noticeable as one is almost doubling their hp. I am wondering if at higher hp's in the range of these JD twins, how much of an advantage in practical terms exists. Certainly if one is able to jump to a 6' mower as opposed to a 5 footer on the lesser hp tractor then that percentage of width of cut would be applied to time saved. As I have never experienced this differential, it would be helpful to get a bit of a handle for those people buying a tractor for pasture or extensive grass cutting where the difference of a 38 hp tractor as opposed to a 50 or 60 hp tractor is rather obvious. My question is when dealing with these amounts of hp, (from 32 to 38) how many additional hp's are needed to really see a difference with rpm oriented attachments. Numerically at the motor there is an 8% difference. I do not think or I should say i do not know this necessarily equates that your work can go 8% faster unless your implement is also that much larger. There is also the added torque that may allow the tractor to go faster in higher grass but again, to what degree? There is a pervasive opinion for some that buying the larger hp motor is always an advantage and when in doubt, buy the larger motor. It is probable that JD is hoping for the same reasoning and attempting to compete with a particular market share. I am questioning this and trying to be more data driven.
My question is when dealing with these amounts of hp, (from 32 to 38) how many additional hp's are needed to really see a difference with rpm oriented attachments. Numerically at the motor there is an 8% difference. I do not think or I should say i do not know this necessarily equates that your work can go 8% faster unless your implement is also that much larger.
Not specific to JD, but our experience is quite definite in comparing the 2 Kub Ls. Driving the same 5' bushog the 3450 is much better. This advantage comes in its relative ease in accomodating the natuaral variance in the work. If all work was done on the flat it would be much less noticeable but if youve no, or little reserve the hills slow you down and make the job less enjoyable.
larry
Good comparison anyway Spyder. your 2550 shows 23 pto hp while your 3450 is at 30. This showing a difference of a bit less than 8% and you are still noticing it . Good practical applied info. Thanks
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But 23 vs 30.....
The 3450 is 30% bigger than the 2550
The 2550 is 24% smaller than the 3450
The 2550 has 76% of the power the 3450 has
The 3450 has 130% of the power the 2550 has
Confused yet??
This is why I hate calculating percentages. Hmm... Which way to go? Which sounds more impressive? Why don't the percentages stay constant? ARRRGGH!!! :banghead::hissyfit:ullinghair:
Joe
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But 23 vs 30.....
The 3450 is 30% bigger than the 2550
The 2550 is 24% smaller than the 3450
The 2550 has 76% of the power the 3450 has
The 3450 has 130% of the power the 2550 has
Confused yet??
Yes. thank you. I was interested in correcting it myself and would have. Allow me to do it anyway. The 3450 has 30 pto hp and the 25 has 23. 23 is 76% of 30. Wait a minute…that leaves 24%. How can it be 24% smaller and the 3450 be 30% larger?