LD1
Epic Contributor
Well, against my better judgment, lets break it down one more time.
You disagree with this.
Torque is defined as twisting force. If two engines have the same torque, they have the same amount f twisting force.
Work that needs done requires twisting force to accomplish. If the two engines are able to apply the SAME twisting force the work they are "able" to do is the same. (regardless of how fast they can apply that twisting force)
If you have to accomplish work that needs 100ft lbs of torque to accomplish, and you have a 99ft lb engine, it simply isnt going to get it done regardless of weather it has 10hp or 100hp.
Now what of that do you disagree with and why??
As in the example above, say you have work that needs done and requires 100ft lbs of torque. and you have 2 engines with 99ft-lbs. One with 10hp and the other with 100. Neither will do the work. But If you add a gearbox to boost the torque, now they will BOTH do the work. But the 100hp engine will simply be 10 times faster.
It dont matter HOW much torque is required to do the work, you can always add gearboxes to get it done. You can add a 100:1 gearbox to the 10hp engine just the same as the 100 hp engine and the end result will still be the same torque.
So when I say that you can gear both the high AND low HP engines to accomplish the work at hand, you diagreed. Care to elaborate as to why?
This was in response to another poster. They were saying that a figure like "32hp @ 2500rpm", that the 2500rpm was already the "time element" or HP. But it is simply the point at which the measurement was taken. Whats wrong with that? I suppose that since torque is listed as something like "80ft-lbs @ 1600rpm", that torque also has a time element???
Kinda reverts back to my example in the second part of this post. I dont see why you think it is wrong?
Same torque = same work that "CAN" be accomplished.
Added HP just makes it get accomplished faster.
If torque is the same, work that CAN be done is the same.
You disagree with this.
Torque is defined as twisting force. If two engines have the same torque, they have the same amount f twisting force.
Work that needs done requires twisting force to accomplish. If the two engines are able to apply the SAME twisting force the work they are "able" to do is the same. (regardless of how fast they can apply that twisting force)
If you have to accomplish work that needs 100ft lbs of torque to accomplish, and you have a 99ft lb engine, it simply isnt going to get it done regardless of weather it has 10hp or 100hp.
Now what of that do you disagree with and why??
If you can gear the the higher HP machine to do more work, you can ALSO gear the lower HP machine to do just as much work. (IF the engine starts off with the same torque)
As in the example above, say you have work that needs done and requires 100ft lbs of torque. and you have 2 engines with 99ft-lbs. One with 10hp and the other with 100. Neither will do the work. But If you add a gearbox to boost the torque, now they will BOTH do the work. But the 100hp engine will simply be 10 times faster.
It dont matter HOW much torque is required to do the work, you can always add gearboxes to get it done. You can add a 100:1 gearbox to the 10hp engine just the same as the 100 hp engine and the end result will still be the same torque.
So when I say that you can gear both the high AND low HP engines to accomplish the work at hand, you diagreed. Care to elaborate as to why?
If torque is the same, work that CAN be done is the same.
You can ALWAYS gain torque by gearing. Thats no secret. But HP remains constant (minus a little frictional losses).
If you can gear the the higher HP machine to do more work, you can ALSO gear the lower HP machine to do just as much work. (IF the engine starts off with the same torque)
And the RPM's have nothing to do with the time element of HP. All the RPM's mean is THAT is the point that they measured the HP. Two totally different things. RPM is just the point at which the measurment is taken.
You can take a 100hp engine with 100ft lbs of torque, and then you can take a 20hp engine with the SAME 100ft-lbs, and the work they are ABLE to do is exactally the same. The 100hp engine will just be quicker is all.
And the RPM's have nothing to do with the time element of HP. All the RPM's mean is THAT is the point that they measured the HP. Two totally different things. RPM is just the point at which the measurment is taken.
This was in response to another poster. They were saying that a figure like "32hp @ 2500rpm", that the 2500rpm was already the "time element" or HP. But it is simply the point at which the measurement was taken. Whats wrong with that? I suppose that since torque is listed as something like "80ft-lbs @ 1600rpm", that torque also has a time element???
You can take a 100hp engine with 100ft lbs of torque, and then you can take a 20hp engine with the SAME 100ft-lbs, and the work they are ABLE to do is exactally the same. The 100hp engine will just be quicker is all.
Kinda reverts back to my example in the second part of this post. I dont see why you think it is wrong?
Same torque = same work that "CAN" be accomplished.
Added HP just makes it get accomplished faster.