Dennis, don't think of it as slidding down a hill like a slip in slide, think of it like a very slow wiggle and more of a crab position as the rear end goes down, the front stays put that only happens as forward progression continues and only at that point that is that steep which is now has been almost completely eliminated by my "old" L48 Kubota. I know where the holes and the rocks are since its been mowed now about 157 times by the old International tractor. It's all relative, there are folks back East who come out here to the West and cannot believe we actually drive our cars around some of the mountain passes without a guard rail ie., Highway 50 into South Lake Tahoe. More then that, I have to think about the fellas who built that road around there, an absolutely awesome display of guts and probably some stupidity.