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    Default X748 diesel additive

    Anybody on here read this http://www.deere.com/en_US/ag/servic...ditioners.html where you might need the conditioner for your fuel pump warranty, or did John Deere mention anything about this when you bought your x748, like running over the road fuel without it in your off road diesels.

    There is quite a bit of information in this like Since the introduction of All-Season Stanadyne, more information on low sulfur-fuel has been obtained and improvements in the product were found to be necessary.

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    Default Re: X748 diesel additive

    Quote Originally Posted by rubadub View Post
    Anybody on here read this What are the advantages of using John Deere Fuel Conditioners? where you might need the conditioner for your fuel pump warranty, or did John Deere mention anything about this when you bought your x748, like running over the road fuel without it in your off road diesels.

    There is quite a bit of information in this like Since the introduction of All-Season Stanadyne, more information on low sulfur-fuel has been obtained and improvements in the product were found to be necessary.

    Rob
    When I bought my JD X740 diesel back in 2011 my dealer never made any comment to use a additive.I have owned diesels for many years.I have always used a diesel
    additive of some sort.coobie
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    Default Re: X748 diesel additive

    Quote Originally Posted by coobie View Post
    When I bought my JD X740 diesel back in 2011 my dealer never made any comment to use a additive.I have owned diesels for many years.I have always used a diesel
    additive of some sort.coobie
    I'm guessing here a little bit coobie, but I think John Deere is trying to ease the diesel owners into paying a little more attention to the low sulphur fuel, and in the long run you can expect your diesel to last longer using there additive. John deere does a lot of testing and they aren't going to make public what they find in a lot of cases but if they are saying your diesel will run better or last longer they might know something we don't.

    You can take a look at the two parts in this here

    John*Deere Fuel Solutions JohnDeere.com

    They actually tell you about the low sulphur fuel and wear but the gasoline additive doesn't address it like the diesel. Maybe they are trying to tell us something.

    Rob

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    Default Re: X748 diesel additive

    Maybe JohnDeere is just trying to make more money by pushing its products.
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    Default Re: X748 diesel additive

    Not necessarily so, heres the gasoline additive.

    Fuel-Protect Gasoline Stabilizer



    Prevent corrosion, gum and varnish from clogging the fuel system in your gas-powered equipment.

    Protect fresh gasoline in your stored vehicles for up to 12 months
    Keep fuel from breaking down into gum and varnish
    Protect both two- and four-cycle gasoline engines
    Ensure quick and easy starts
    Eliminate the need to drain and dispose of gasoline
    Protect fuel systems of stored equipment all year long

    And heres the diesel version


    Fuel-Protect Diesel Fuel Conditioner



    Uphold diesel fuel performance and maintain peak engine efficiency year-round.

    Boosts fuel’s cetane number for faster, smoother and more fuel-efficient starting
    Detergents clean the fuels system and injectors work to prevent performance-robbing erosion
    Lubricants protect and reduce injector and pump wear
    Maintains fuel pump warranty
    Minimizes smoking
    Compatible with all diesel fuels, including biodiesel up to B20 blends
    Available in Summer and Winter formulas
    Recommended for use with low-sulfur diesel (LSD) and up to 20-percent (B20) biodiesel

    ================================================== ================
    ================================================== ================

    There talking more about cleaning the fuel system with gasoline additive where there talking about actual wear in the diesel, two different situations.

    It doesn't look like the diesel fuel isn't getting any better and they have also said that the lack of its additive will cause some premature wear in a diesel. In other words you can pay me now or pay me later. I would say it keeps the injector wear down and this keeps the smoking down.

    This sentence right here Detergents clean the fuels system and injectors work to prevent performance-robbing erosion, I'm not really sure what they are trying to say by performance-robbing erosion.

    There are diesel owners on here that might be able to look at this say it doesn't matter or give us some ideas on whats going on, but John Deere doesn't use the words erosion, premature wear or anything like it in the gasoline additive, so there must be something to it.

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    Default Re: X748 diesel additive

    I use additives frequently but have a hard time doing it consistently with every tank fill up. This spring I am planning on installing a bulk tank and will treat this each time it is filled with diesel. Hopefully this will help with overall diesel problems such as lubricity with the ultra low sulphur fuel.

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    Default Re: X748 diesel additive

    Quote Originally Posted by jenkinsph View Post
    I use additives frequently but have a hard time doing it consistently with every tank fill up. This spring I am planning on installing a bulk tank and will treat this each time it is filled with diesel. Hopefully this will help with overall diesel problems such as lubricity with the ultra low sulphur fuel.
    Sounds like your taking really good care of your tractor and that will pay off in the long run.

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    Default Re: X748 diesel additive

    Quote Originally Posted by rubadub View Post
    Sounds like your taking really good care of your tractor and that will pay off in the long run.
    Thanks, as much as the motors and injection systems cost it is a no brainer.

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    Default Re: X748 diesel additive

    Quote Originally Posted by rubadub View Post
    I'm guessing here a little bit coobie, but I think John Deere is trying to ease the diesel owners into paying a little more attention to the low sulphur fuel, and in the long run you can expect your diesel to last longer using there additive. John deere does a lot of testing and they aren't going to make public what they find in a lot of cases but if they are saying your diesel will run better or last longer they might know something we don't.

    You can take a look at the two parts in this here

    John*Deere Fuel Solutions JohnDeere.com

    They actually tell you about the low sulphur fuel and wear but the gasoline additive doesn't address it like the diesel. Maybe they are trying to tell us something.

    Rob
    I fully agree Rob,like I stated earlier I have always used a diesel additive(stanadyne,schaffers 2000 diesel treat,howes)to name a few.There is a independent study on the web called the spicer report that breaks down which diesel additives are better and worse.Good read IMHO.coobie
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    Default Re: X748 diesel additive

    Quote Originally Posted by jenkinsph View Post
    I use additives frequently but have a hard time doing it consistently with every tank fill up. This spring I am planning on installing a bulk tank and will treat this each time it is filled with diesel. Hopefully this will help with overall diesel problems such as lubricity with the ultra low sulphur fuel.
    Great idea IMHO.I have a 150 gal. diesel tank treated with schaffers diesel treat 2000 and a 300 gal. gas tank both gravity fed I treat the gas tank with stabil marine grade additive (1)can treats around 300 gal.coobie
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