Looks like I have some options, although none are ideal.
Blueriver- so it's that simple... divide wheel centers by 2 and that's the optimum row spacing. My guess is that's going to be too tight. Might could consider it for my irrigated plots I suppose. Any thoughts on that spacing for corn? If I set my between row spacing at 25.60 I guess I could adjust my in row spacing to something farther apart to effectively end up with the same plant footprint as 30 inch centers.
Or, maybe I could twin row the corn. Have two rows very close together with a larger alleyway between. Anyone know of optimal spacing for this and/or if it could work/why I wouldn't want to do it. Seems like I could at least set up a cultivator relatively easily to work with whatever twin row spacing I come up with. If I were to set up for twin row, what is the closest distance I could get away with between the twins and still be able to cultivate between them?
Anyone know if 2 planters on a tool bar could be set for say 25"? Meaning, I'm sure there is some limit as to how close together you can put the planters together. Is there a magic minimum distance?
Artist- I'm right around the corner from you. Just outside of Bishopville. In the grand scheme of things, I'll only be planting max 2 acres of anything that needs to be planted. Right now I'm comfortable with "sticking" and transplanting ballpark 1/4 acre. Tried the earthway push planter last year for southern peas and went back to sticking it. Too much multilple seeds and skips. Part of my problem was I didn't prepare the soil good enough ahead of time though. Will probably try again this year. Seeing as you have good luck with it, only makes sense that I give it another try.
Wcambpell- I've been trying to make up my mind if I'm a complete idiot for breaking out my hand tiller when I've got a full size tiller and can buy a tractor drawn planter and cultivator to go behind my tractor, but for my 150' rows of my market garden at least, tilling, hand poking seed, and dropping in transplants, I'm just not sure it doesn't make the most sense. I have a wife and 2 boys that I can sometimes rope into helping so, it's just really not that bad. I like the idea of being able to twin row my lettuce and not twin row other crops. And now that I've moved off of trying to go to 30" centers to cram more stuff in there, I can come back later with my rototiller between the rows to clean things up. Also have been experimenting with allowing clover to grow between the tilled areas (row middles) this year. Once my plants start taking off and the clover gets out of control, I should be able to handle it ok with the tiller I hope, without too much moisture competition. The main reason I'm looking at tractor implements is for corn and okra. Planted about 1/4 acre okra with a stick last year, and although it was certainly manageable, it did seem a little tedious at times. Wondering how much I'm going to enjoy hand sticking that much okra plus twice that amount of corn in the next couple weeks..... Problem is, while I know it doesn't take that much time changing out tractor implements, that is not a lot of fun either. Just weighing my options here. BTW, since you have experience with both, how effective is cultivating with a tractor & a hoe vs cultivating with a rototiller & a hoe?
Tony cecil-
Sounds like you have your system down. So you don't put down any preplant fertilizer for your field corn (or do you just broadcast before making the beds) and wait till it's up to almost 2 feet before adding fertilizer? How many weeks +/-?. I don't think getting my crops planted on 30" centers is my problem anymore. It's more a problem of how to cultivate later after I get it planted without running over my crops. I'd be interested in your thoughts on my questions below about twin rowing corn.
vtsnowedin- 30" will fit for planting but will be very tight for cultivating later (about 4" between tire and seed/plant).
Blueriver- so it's that simple... divide wheel centers by 2 and that's the optimum row spacing. My guess is that's going to be too tight. Might could consider it for my irrigated plots I suppose. Any thoughts on that spacing for corn? If I set my between row spacing at 25.60 I guess I could adjust my in row spacing to something farther apart to effectively end up with the same plant footprint as 30 inch centers.
Or, maybe I could twin row the corn. Have two rows very close together with a larger alleyway between. Anyone know of optimal spacing for this and/or if it could work/why I wouldn't want to do it. Seems like I could at least set up a cultivator relatively easily to work with whatever twin row spacing I come up with. If I were to set up for twin row, what is the closest distance I could get away with between the twins and still be able to cultivate between them?
Anyone know if 2 planters on a tool bar could be set for say 25"? Meaning, I'm sure there is some limit as to how close together you can put the planters together. Is there a magic minimum distance?
Artist- I'm right around the corner from you. Just outside of Bishopville. In the grand scheme of things, I'll only be planting max 2 acres of anything that needs to be planted. Right now I'm comfortable with "sticking" and transplanting ballpark 1/4 acre. Tried the earthway push planter last year for southern peas and went back to sticking it. Too much multilple seeds and skips. Part of my problem was I didn't prepare the soil good enough ahead of time though. Will probably try again this year. Seeing as you have good luck with it, only makes sense that I give it another try.
Wcambpell- I've been trying to make up my mind if I'm a complete idiot for breaking out my hand tiller when I've got a full size tiller and can buy a tractor drawn planter and cultivator to go behind my tractor, but for my 150' rows of my market garden at least, tilling, hand poking seed, and dropping in transplants, I'm just not sure it doesn't make the most sense. I have a wife and 2 boys that I can sometimes rope into helping so, it's just really not that bad. I like the idea of being able to twin row my lettuce and not twin row other crops. And now that I've moved off of trying to go to 30" centers to cram more stuff in there, I can come back later with my rototiller between the rows to clean things up. Also have been experimenting with allowing clover to grow between the tilled areas (row middles) this year. Once my plants start taking off and the clover gets out of control, I should be able to handle it ok with the tiller I hope, without too much moisture competition. The main reason I'm looking at tractor implements is for corn and okra. Planted about 1/4 acre okra with a stick last year, and although it was certainly manageable, it did seem a little tedious at times. Wondering how much I'm going to enjoy hand sticking that much okra plus twice that amount of corn in the next couple weeks..... Problem is, while I know it doesn't take that much time changing out tractor implements, that is not a lot of fun either. Just weighing my options here. BTW, since you have experience with both, how effective is cultivating with a tractor & a hoe vs cultivating with a rototiller & a hoe?
Tony cecil-
Sounds like you have your system down. So you don't put down any preplant fertilizer for your field corn (or do you just broadcast before making the beds) and wait till it's up to almost 2 feet before adding fertilizer? How many weeks +/-?. I don't think getting my crops planted on 30" centers is my problem anymore. It's more a problem of how to cultivate later after I get it planted without running over my crops. I'd be interested in your thoughts on my questions below about twin rowing corn.
vtsnowedin- 30" will fit for planting but will be very tight for cultivating later (about 4" between tire and seed/plant).